After upgrading to version 4.0.40, I'm still running into an issue with the timers not working when the page is not active.

Last night, I kept the page with the timers active and it was fine.

This was an issue for a long time, but I never worried about it, but it is happening lately a bit too often.....sometimes it works as it should, and another time, especially after opened for a long time, I get that issue, and I have to force it to close by using 'Task Manager'.....I don't bother about it very much, ....

I am not sure, but what I do, I add a second monitor, and place the Panel Builder on that monitor.....I think there is a way, but I can not tell you how to do, as I have not done it, but there should be a way....try placing the web address from vMix in that field on the panel Builder on the second PC, and see what happens

Unsuccessfully fighting the urge to be pedantic...

But if you need to connect two computers to each other only, and not to another external network like the Internet, then you don't necessarily need a router-- you could use a switch. Connecting to an external network, like the Internet, is what a router does.

However, if you DO use a switch for this purpose, and not a router, then you'll need to manually assign an IP address to each computer on the network, since that switch in all likelihood lacks a feature that most routers contain-- the DHCP server that automatically assigns IP addresses to devices.

Long and short-- if you have PCs on the same local area network with IP addresses assigned on the same subnet-- say, one with the address 192.168.1.2, and the next with the address 192.168.1.3, then panel builder running on one PC will be able to control Vmix running on the other, presuming both panel builder and Vmix are configured to allow it according to its own instructions.

Lastly-- actually the network interfaces on most modern computers are autosensing, so whereas in the past you would have needed a special cable, called a crossover cable, to directly connect two PCs without an intervening device like a switch, these days you don't. If you have two PCs by themselves and no preexisting LAN and want to connect only those two devices, you CAN connect them with a single ordinary ethernet cable, configure them as above with manually assigned IP addresses, and it should work.

Just about any router basically also contains a switch, and also a DHCP server, so that just means you let your devices get addresses automatically and it should just work.

Any of these devices if you already have them should work-- there just wouldn't be a need to go out and buy a router if you otherwise didn't need one. And if all you needed was to add more devices to an existing network, you'd definitely want a switch and not a router because you don't, generally speaking, want more than one router or DHCP server on a network because that will cause problems. You can use a router with multiple ports as a switch by turning off those functions.

Anyway, glad you got it working!

There should be no problem connecting to vMix 25. Are you running it from the same computer as vMix or a separate computer ?

- If you are using a separate computer, make sure that you are connected to the same network as vMix
- Check that you have configured the correct IP and Port in the Panel Builder preferences according to the WebController settings in vMix. Make sure that TCP API is enabled.

As far as quitting, there is a known issue where it may not quit properly on some Windows machines (especially on Server Installations) . I will endeavour to fix this in the next release.

Richard

UPDATE: version 4.0.42

https://cli.re/vMix-Panel-builder-4.0.42

- fixed background color not changing on labels when editing
- change minimum sizing of lists to allow for narrower Lists
- fixed computer IP address when syncing (now shows correct IP)
- added new vMix25 commands
- fixed issue of app not quitting properly on some Windows machines (especially Server intallations)
- bug fixes

Richard

As the application grows with the addition of new features, it naturally requires more CPU to process the data. The response of Panel Builder is also related to the number and types of objects on a page. The more objects like VU's Faders and Lists on one page, the slower the response may be depending on the device used to run the app. Having said that, there shouldn't be much difference from previous versions as I tried to minimize the impact of adding the latest features.

The addition of vMIx25 shortcut should have no impact on performance.

I tested with 3 playlists containing a dozen items each and they respond quite reasonably. Out of curiosity... how long are your playlists.

Richard

I'm not quite sure what you are doing ? You can't run a "Playlist" in the background ? It is used for Output only. So I'm assuming you have a standard "List" looping some audio files. In that case, you can create a button with "PlayPause" as the command and set the "Input" to the list you wish to control. The "PlayPause" button should tally if the list is actually Playing. You could then use that button to "Pause" the list if you wish.

I'm confused about "I may have 2 lists in a group "... You shouldn't really group lists as they are separate entities and don't really have any common elements..

Richard

That's really interesting Joeboe. Can you send me your template so that I can better understand how you are using the lists and the play/pause grouping feature. I know there are a lot of possibilities for individual use cases. I'll see if there is something you can do in order to see which list is running. I'm thinking of maybe adding a button to each list to show which one is playing ??

Thanks for you're support and using the app to it's potential... :)