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Hi Guys & Gals, Would you please consider adding activators/WEB API events/XML status feedback for "input is in overlay PVW". You've got activators/XML for OverlayInput1, OverlayInput2, OverlayInput3, OverlayInput4 (or words to that effect I don't have VMix in front of me at the moment) but there is no feedback event/Activator for OverlayInput1Preview, OverlayInput2Preview, OverlayInput3Preview, OverlayInput4Preview. I currently just use PC Keyboard shortcuts, but I need to hand over to My default VMix preset has about 30 inputs. Black 4 cameras 2 computers 2 virtual PinP luma keys of above computers - would like to indicate on controller that overlay is in preview 8 lower third Name/Title overlays - which I like to transition to PGM with the MCU camera shot
- would like to indicate on controller that overlay is in preview 3 virtual camera PinP lower right corner} - which I like to transition to PGM with the Computer background
- would like to indicate on controller that overlay is in preview 3 virtual camera PinP upper right corner} To overlay over computer and avoid obscuring text - which I like to transition to PGM with the Computer background
- would like to indicate on controller that overlay is in preview 1 datasource CSV text lower third overlay 1 VMix social 1 audio input from PA and a couple of things I have forgotten I would like to be able to build a controller layout with Green/ Red overlay PVW/PGM colour feedback like: Overlay3 PGM can know if on PGM or off ...........Datasource text lower third and VMix Social Alpha channel overlays
Overlay3 PVW can't know if on PVW or off
Overlay2 PGM can know if on PGM or off ...........Cameras/Computers Picture in Picture/luma key overlays
Overlay2 PVW can't know if on PVW or off
Overlay1 PGM can know if on PGM or off ...........Name/Title Lower third overlays
Overlay1 PVW can't know if on PVW or off
Backgnd PGM can know if on PGM or off ...........Cameras/Computers sources
Backgnd PVW can know if on PVW or off
I have been trying a couple of ideas: 1) Custom WEB controller I have saved the built in web controller page including the css and javascript folder and re-arranged the HTML so that I can see everything without scrolling: all my background sources on the bottom pair of rows (removing overlay and audio inputs),
all my lower third Name/Title titles on a second pair of rows (M/E1 / Overlay1 PVW/PGM removing all background sources) with RED/Green Button colour. I open the html from a drop box folder and point it to the VMix IP address through modified javascript. I understand that the built-in web controller is populated from the XML which you have no way of knowing what the sources will be at design time; and that it is probably not intended for 30 sources :) . I can attach my modified ajax project to a reply if you wish. 2 AKAI APC Mini controller button LED colour In configuring activators for the same layout on an APC Mini, I ran into the same problem with a lack of feedback from VMix to indicate if an input was in overlay preview.
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Have you checked the API XML ?
it gives you which input is on what overlay and which input is in preview and which input is active
localhost:8088/API in browser to see
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Yes, I have examined the XML in great depth. As I said, I have customised the builtin WEB page and wrangled it to suit my purposes as much as possible ie, for My preset: the original was 949 lines of HTML (and 50 lines of VMix specific javascript - which everyone gets)
My edited version is 560 lines of HTML and 500 lines of javascript.. In the HTML: - I deleted most of the buttons for each row (reducing to 3~9 buttons per row to suit my preset), as I will never use full screen black or cameras on overlays1/2/3/4 and never use VMix Social as a background or on overlays 1/2/4
- I have duplicated the overlay rows to provide PVW Overlay buttons below the pre-existing respective PGM Overlay rows.. complete with new ranges of Button IDs.
In the additional lines of javascript: - I have manufactured Red/Green overlay PVW/PGM button statuses instead of the default blue for PGM only.
- When touching an overlay button row, either PVW or PGM, both PVW/PGM rows for the chosen overlay light up in Red/Green, so that the operator is reminded that touching the companion row will CUT the current Overlay assignment and fade new source to PVW/PGM etc. :)
Secondly, the XML data doesn't help with the hardware controller working via MIDI.. it simply indicates that there is currently no event/command/output data/function to indicate status of Overlay PVW input assignment. <overlays> <overlay number="1"/>
<overlay number="2">9</overlay>
<overlay number="3"/>
<overlay number="4"/>
<overlay number="5"/>
<overlay number="6"/>
</overlays> <preview>2</preview><active>1</active>The XML Overlay tags only refer to PGM Overlay it does NOT indicate which inputs are in OVERLAY1/2/3/4/5/6 PVW. The XML Preview tag is only for Background image (100% sources) not overlays/PinP (to clarify: I am not using Multiview sources - I don't know what happens in that scenario). If the following XML tags were added and given an activator event accessible to MIDI we might be get somewhere: <overlay Preview number="1"/>10</overlayPreview> <overlay Preview number="2"/> <overlay Preview number="3"/> <overlay Preview number="4"/>27</overlayPreview> <overlay Preview number="5"/> <overlay Preview number="6"/> Internally, the programmers know which inputs are being PVWed as overlays, because the input window shows a Green 1/2/3/4 - I am just asking for this knowledge to become publicly accessible. (Clarification.. I changed the Settings --> Display --> Preview/Output Colours to Green/ Red instead of the default Orange/ Green...)
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+1 Yes please. This is also something I requested some time ago
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I promise that I searched before posting my question, but I obviously used the wrong key words..
I see we think very much alike - even down to our choice of colours... ;)
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+1 Essential requirement for Activators.
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An Overlay Preview indicator for vMix Activators is so important. Cannot tell on the control surface if any of the Overlays are either “On Air” or “Preview”. This renders any control surface nearly useless for such a basic video switcher feature. By example below, the XKeys XK-80 with vMix Overlay 1-4 (DSK) in Preview. However, both the “On Air” (red) and “Preview” (blue) buttons and tally lights are activated as both ON for each Overlay 1-4. This is not good. Confusing for the Operators.  Other Posts related to this request: https://forums.vmix.com/...tor-Request---Overlay-Onhttps://forums.vmix.com/...-Tallys-and-the-vMix-API
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+1
These are the details that are getting vMix really close to taking this to the "big boys" :-)
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+1 Indeed. We have the same preview overlay tally problem with the XKeys XK-128.
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Overlay Preview indicators for vMix Activators , maybe in vMix 24 according to Martin on the vMix Funtime Live Show for December 2019.
Until then, the tally confusion continues.
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Apparently not included in vMix 24 current beta version.
It would seem that the feature request for an Overlay Preview Activator has been discarded as not essential.
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