vMix Forums
»
General
»
General Discussion
»
If Mov sucks CPU, what's an alternative?
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/6/2017(UTC) Posts: 11
Thanks: 2 times
|
I've been hearing a lot of folks say that quicktime sucks a lot of CPU but what's an alternative? I want to use a format that allows alpha channels and audio
(normally I use the animation codec inside of aftereffects for QT files)
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/1/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,150 Location: Houston TX Thanks: 319 times Was thanked: 263 time(s) in 233 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/6/2017(UTC) Posts: 11
Thanks: 2 times
|
mjgraves wrote:A series of PNG files. last time I checked png seq doesn't carry audio, unless you know something i don't
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/7/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,624 Location: Canada Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 504 time(s) in 473 post(s)
|
@ iansama It typically doesn't, BUT... You can add an audio file to the folder and rename it to match the first image in the sequence and you should be good to go when loaded into vMix. Some of the details are discussed here: https://forums.vmix.com/...aspx?g=posts&t=10632Hope that helps. Ice
|
1 user thanked IceStream for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/20/2014(UTC) Posts: 2,721 Location: Bordeaux, France Thanks: 243 times Was thanked: 794 time(s) in 589 post(s)
|
|
1 user thanked DWAM for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/6/2017(UTC) Posts: 11
Thanks: 2 times
|
thanks DWAM and IceSream, you guys replied with the same link within 15 seconds of each other -- great minds think alike ;)
I will check it out and report back :D
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/12/2015(UTC) Posts: 482 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Thanks: 150 times Was thanked: 75 time(s) in 57 post(s)
|
|
1 user thanked stevespaw for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 8/3/2013(UTC) Posts: 405 Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 76 time(s) in 58 post(s)
|
Steve can you expand on that. Many tools on that page :) Is there a download to an Newtek video file format? I didn't see it. Or are you saying you use the Adobe plugin and send stuff real time from After Effects or Premier?
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/24/2016(UTC) Posts: 331 Location: Chicago, IL
Was thanked: 143 time(s) in 94 post(s)
|
Installing NDI Tools on a PC will install the NewTek SpeedHQ codec. This codec supports alpha channel by choosing selection that has four digits of color space (like SpeedHQ 4:2:2:4 or 4:2:0:4). There is also a OSX version of SpeedHQ that can be downloaded from http://new.tk/dlThe codecs are available on the bottom of the page. Kane Peterson NewTek
|
4 users thanked kane for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/19/2017(UTC) Posts: 54
Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 13 time(s) in 12 post(s)
|
Hi Steve, I've been trying to use the newtek codecs with alpha channel, without success. I'm exporting the videos selecting the alpha option on Adobe After effects, but when I add them into VMIX the alpha doesnt work. I even tryied to tick the "this video contains alpha channel", while adding it. It's possible that I'm missing something while exporting or importing, can you give me some more information so I get it to work? I'm currently having huge performance issues by using multiple .mov animations into my production. Thank you.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/12/2015(UTC) Posts: 482 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Thanks: 150 times Was thanked: 75 time(s) in 57 post(s)
|
Can you Export a PNG file of one of the frames and verify that it has alpha? There are several Adobe setting that can affect this.
Steve
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/24/2016(UTC) Posts: 331 Location: Chicago, IL
Was thanked: 143 time(s) in 94 post(s)
|
I just used After Effects 2017 and rendered out a QuickTime in the SpeedHQ 4:2:2:4 codec and loaded into my IP Series system (I don't have a vMix). Alpha channel was there. Must be a setting somewhere.
Kane Peterson NewTek
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/13/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,162 Location: Melbourne Thanks: 220 times Was thanked: 199 time(s) in 181 post(s)
|
kane wrote:I just used After Effects 2017 and rendered out a QuickTime in the SpeedHQ 4:2:2:4 codec and loaded into my IP Series system (I don't have a vMix). Alpha channel was there. Must be a setting somewhere.
Kane Peterson NewTek Kane, can you upload the .mov file and we can check it in vMix.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/24/2016(UTC) Posts: 331 Location: Chicago, IL
Was thanked: 143 time(s) in 94 post(s)
|
ask wrote:kane wrote:I just used After Effects 2017 and rendered out a QuickTime in the SpeedHQ 4:2:2:4 codec and loaded into my IP Series system (I don't have a vMix). Alpha channel was there. Must be a setting somewhere.
Kane Peterson NewTek Kane, can you upload the .mov file and we can check it in vMix. Here is a link to download my super awesome, mind blowing alpha channel animation! https://1drv.ms/v/s!AvQUqb_Jvb0UhA0M0II2Mt8jhC9kKane Peterson NewTek
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/19/2017(UTC) Posts: 54
Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 13 time(s) in 12 post(s)
|
Kane, Vmix didn't recognice the file format, and I do have NDI Tools installed, I can even record with newtek codec. VLC reports the codec is "SHQ3". Am I doing something wrong? thanks, Felipe kane wrote:ask wrote:kane wrote:I just used After Effects 2017 and rendered out a QuickTime in the SpeedHQ 4:2:2:4 codec and loaded into my IP Series system (I don't have a vMix). Alpha channel was there. Must be a setting somewhere.
Kane Peterson NewTek Kane, can you upload the .mov file and we can check it in vMix. Here is a link to download my super awesome, mind blowing alpha channel animation! https://1drv.ms/v/s!AvQUqb_Jvb0UhA0M0II2Mt8jhC9k Kane Peterson NewTek
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/24/2016(UTC) Posts: 331 Location: Chicago, IL
Was thanked: 143 time(s) in 94 post(s)
|
I can't say. It works on my TriCaster and with After Effects without having to do anything special. I don't use vMix (just here to help with NDI questions). Perhaps someone else here knows if there is a step you are missing.
Kane Peterson NewTek
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/7/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,624 Location: Canada Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 504 time(s) in 473 post(s)
|
@ kane
Same issue here... None of my players are able to play your file (vMix, VLC, Quicktime, WindowsMediaPlayer) vMix Error: Could not find elementary streams
EDIT: Also, the NewTek codecs in vMix are contained in AVI not MOV.
Ice
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/13/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,162 Location: Melbourne Thanks: 220 times Was thanked: 199 time(s) in 181 post(s)
|
It opens in QT on my test machine quite happily but I get the same error as Ice when trying to open in vMix. have sent the error log to vMix support.
Also works fine in Vegas.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/24/2016(UTC) Posts: 331 Location: Chicago, IL
Was thanked: 143 time(s) in 94 post(s)
|
IceStream wrote:@ kane
Same issue here... None of my players are able to play your file (vMix, VLC, Quicktime, WindowsMediaPlayer) vMix Error: Could not find elementary streams
EDIT: Also, the NewTek codecs in vMix are contained in AVI not MOV.
Ice - Current VLC Player doesn't support SpeedHQ, unless you are using VLC v3 betas. - Apple's QuickTime Player will play the files at long as the NewTek codecs are installed (use QuickTime 7 on OSX systems). - Windows MediaPlayer will not play any QuickTime codec beyond H.264. - I have no idea about vMix. The SpeedHQ codec is supported in both AVI and QuickTime files. Kane Peterson NewTek
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/12/2015(UTC) Posts: 482 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Thanks: 150 times Was thanked: 75 time(s) in 57 post(s)
|
Here is a SpeedHQ .avi that I made in BluffTitler quickly. SHQ .AVI videoIt works perfect in vMix here. Steve
|
|
|
|
vMix Forums
»
General
»
General Discussion
»
If Mov sucks CPU, what's an alternative?
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
Important Information:
The vMix Forums uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies.
More Details
Close