Hi, I know that the subject of this topic looks aggressive, but let me say something about why I think vMix or any other software like this should be available for Linux.

First of all, there's no video mixing software that actually works on Linux, and does the job as vMix actually do.
Making an streaming PC with Linux is making a stable streaming! With this we would get powerful, stable, and "cheap" live streaming PCs.
If vMix gets into a world of Linux, and starts producing it for it, this would make a huge change in live streaming world, as for now the only thing which keeps us on Windows and/or OSx is the software that is only for these platforms.
I'm using 4 Linux machines almost every day, and I'd like to do rest of the job on them, and not changing to Windows.
Paying license for Windows every time when new Windows comes out for every streaming PC makes this even harder!
Why not pay for software that I actually use, and I get money for using it!?

As for example, Lightworks software for video editing is a one way for video editors to completely move from Mac or PC to Linux, Lightworks is a great piece of software which also as vMix has a free version.

So it's possible!

I hope that vMix company will start thinking in this way, making Linux world stronger with professional video mixer!

Hi,

Sadly there are quite a few components missing from Linux that would be crucial to vMix.
Thus this would mean a huge amount of extra development just to implement those basic multimedia components.
vMix also can't use any of the open source "GPL" libraries on the platform due to licensing and patent issues.

The key thing is Direct3D achieves better performance and stability under Windows than the equivalent OpenGL under Linux.
This is due to the fact that most games run on Windows and driver developers spend a lot more time working on windows drivers then they do on Linux.

The benefits of Windows in this case far outweigh any small cost benefit of using a free OS.

Regards,

Martin
vMix

Yes, I get this, but making a new software from scratch would be a solution too, tho expensive...
Not sure how software development actually goes, but having a team that would "translate" the code for Linux would be a way to go... Maybe...

Also you said OpenGL is a problem, as AMD announced Mantle, what do you think about it as crossplatform solution, tho its too early to talk about it till we get more information about it...

Still, I'd like to see any video mixing software on Linux, which for start doesnt need to have all features as vMix today has, but starting from multiple inputs and switching them, and ofcourse live streaming that content online would make a huge change...

Thats all :)

The problem is that it isnt free and open source. Windows comes from M$, and here were trying to get rid of it as more as we can.
Linux is future, slowingly coming to every PC, but its just about time to become a main OS, not just about price, but about ability of use, editing your software, or should I say FLOSS...
100€ isnt problem but problem is when you have 100 PCs, and thats 100*100=10000€ and thats only for licence, and what about PCs, hardware?
More developers, and big companies need to realize a usage of Linux, and why would someone start using their product if it also works on Linux :)

As for example, one of the ideas, I want educate 20 students how to work in vMix, for that I would need 21 PC with licenced Windows, and vMix with HD licence, and yes, here, that amount of money is alot to spend. If only I could pay any amount for vMix licence for Linux, and get rid of Win... :)
Hehe

Linux would be a nice consideration for mission-critical stability.

In fact, a vMix distro would be really quite nice (even if it only supported a small range of hardware). Part of the reason being driver stability in Windows. Windows has generally been very stable lately, though I'm wary of the forced updates in Windows 10. I think that a well-maintained Linux vMix distro could complement the already built Windows programs rather well, and I know I would pay double to triple the cost of the vMix Pro license for the fewer variables and more stability-based peace of mind that a purpose-built Linux operating system could provide. Something to consider, though I understand the reasoning as to why this might not be feasible.

I too would rather the manpower went to continuing to develop what is already on Windows. I see no benefit of a Linux port, only drawbacks.

Old topic, but after accidently downloading the anniversary update and having huge trouble on all machines (it installed on all 6 pc's over the network), I see a huge benefit in vmix for linux.

I know vmix relies on directshow, but relying on windows for our business makes less and less sense to me..

I realize this is an old post. I wanted to add that video drivers under Linux have improved significantly over the last few years. Most OpenGL games under Linux have very similar performance when the developers actually spend the time to develop good code. That being said I definitely hear developers complain about some things being easier to do in Direct3D. I'm not completely sure what you mean by true YUV support, could you clarify what limitations you are referring to?

I would argue that Vulkan is the way forward for any graphics intensive applications anyway. Which is going to be a first class citizen on every major computing platform. That includes Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, and Android. Migrating vMix to Vulkan seems like it would be ideal regardless of which platforms you support. Doing so of course would reduce your reliance on Direct3D if not eliminate it all together. At which point it would be much easier to go cross-platform should you desire.

More and more developers are realizing they do not want vendor lock-in. Especially when they are designing their own hardware for turnkey solutions. Obviously there is the licensing cost associated including Windows on your turnkey hardware. If you can remove that requirement, there is extra profit to be had. vMix is well known for the great hardware support, avoiding any type of vender lock-in. A lot of these devices also have Linux and Mac drivers/APIs. I strongly believe if vMix were to go cross-platform it would give you a real competitive edge. Even Newtek saw the need to provide cross platform APIs for NDI.

OBS-Studio is close to receiving native NDI support, and a couple 3rd-party plugins already exist. I'm not going to claim OBS Studio to be very competitive with vMix at this point, as it is definitely lacking in a few areas. But they do have a lot of the base functionality there. It proves that Linux is a capable platform. We are currently using OBS under Linux. We are on the fence about switching to vMix. We don't mind the licensing costs, we already have Lightworks Pro subscriptions. It would break our current workflow. Going back to Windows feels like a step in the wrong direction. We have been very happy with the performance of professional video tools we currently use under Linux.

I am actively involved in the Linux community. I have personally seen substantial growth in the user-base, especially among developers. Many Mac OS developers are moving to Linux for their day to day needs. These are developers working on either cross-platform desktop applications or server side applications. Even Microsoft has started to accept the inevitable. They are adopting Linux in many areas and innovating in unprecedented ways. Windows 10 now has the option to add a Linux sub-system based on Ubuntu. Why would Microsoft do that? One reason, they are trying to stay relevant. They can no longer ignore the thorn in their side. They have chosen to accept the fact that the industry wants Linux. I would not be surprised to see a day when Microsoft decides to abandon the NT kernel in favor of Linux, and Windows as we know it today is nothing more than a desktop environment and a compatibility layer running on top of the Linux kernel.

I find that very hard to believe. I work in IT and have yet to run into a single Windows box that had no performance issues after at least a year or two. There is a reason I use Linux exclusively on my personal computers. After dealing with computer problems all day I don't want to fight my own systems when I get home. I just want them to work. You would not believe the amount of service calls I get from some Windows customers. We end up converting about half of those customers to Linux because they are fed up. Support calls from our Windows users are consistently 5x that of our Linux and Mac users combined, and we have about a 40/40/20 split among our clients (Windows/Linux/Mac). On sites we have multiple platforms deployed, the Linux box is almost never the one they are calling about.



Well Windows is deffinetly the best platform if you want to see your system exploited. I'd rather not deal with the malware, but that's me. (sorry couldn't help myself).




Yup...
A. Don't use the software and let the developer know you are interested if they are willing to support your platform down the road.
B. Subject yourself to Windows and hope the benefits outweigh the negatives.

I didn't come here to complain about windows. I came here to show my support for a Linux version. Not sure why you are so butt hurt about that. The malware argument is not bogus. There is much more malware in existence for Windows than all other platforms combined, that is fact.

You obviously didn't read my comments properly as I have already stated we have many more Linux and Mac clients (60%) than we do Windows, yet we still get 5x the amount of trouble calls for Windows boxes. Windows last year at this time was over 70% of our business, we have seen a very rapid decline. Our customer retention is very good. We are not losing those customers they are just deciding to upgrade to Linux and Mac. On top of that Linux systems are so much easier for us to maintain, that we started offering a 20% discount last month for customers switching to Linux. That has brought a slight up-tick in the amount of conversions. But does not account for the massive Windows decline over the last 10-11 months.

What we have found is people are just fed up with Windows. All our techs carry a few SSDs with Linux pre-loaded as well as a couple Windows drives that have been sysprep'd. About 80% of the customers we offer the option of switching to Linux take us up on it, and never look back. Less 5% of the users we convert decide to go back. The other 15% decide outright they want to stick with what they know. That is because take the time to learn about the customer's needs. If we feel Linux isn't a good option for them right now we don't recommend it and move on with our lives. We will gladly service a Windows box at our standard rate. We also know we'll be back within a year to service it again. Windows has always been very profitable for us.

We have a lot of customers still on Ubuntu 12.04 since we started supporting Linux in 2012 that have never had to call about that machine. In fact we a getting ready to send a notice out tho those customers support for 12.04 runs out Apr-2017 and they need to upgrade. We have never had a Windows install last that long. Sure we had customers using XP up until end of support. But the installation dates on those machines vary rarely exceeded 2 years. In fact we still have a handful of customers that absolutely refuse to get rid of those machines. We still service them, but each machine is isolated on the network and very heavily fire-walled if connected to a network at all. We finally converted our last DOS client this year. Guess where they went... Linux.

I nor any other Linux users are "waiting for software". Every single one of our Linux clients have all the tools they need. If they didn't, they wouldn't be using Linux. Don't confuse my interest in vMix as "Linux users have no options". We have plenty options, and we use them. I also wouldn't mind seeing Photoshop, Premiere, or even Microsoft Office come to Linux. But doesn't mean I can't get my work done. Krita, Lightworks, and LibreOffice do everything I need, and there are many more options out there.