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Ceasare  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 1:17:21 AM(UTC)
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Hello all, I am allready breeding on this for a few days and just cannot get it to work... We have an equestrian event next week and I want to make a scoreboard that adds the score of some aspects. I can assign an excel to the fields but then I have to save the excel with every update. There are five fields with values from 0.0 to 10.0 that should add up and get multiplied by 2 to get to the final score.
I worked in the past with the Iprosoccer template for universal title contoller but this one can only add whole numbers and I should have one decimal behind the comma (e.g.: 8,8) Anyone an idea to get this to work?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 1:25:20 AM(UTC)
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What vMix scoreboard template are you using
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 1:54:03 AM(UTC)
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What vMix scoreboard template are you using


Hello Luis, I use a custom title that I got from the organisation.
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Hello all, I am allready breeding on this for a few days and just cannot get it to work... We have an equestrian event next week and I want to make a scoreboard that adds the score of some aspects.


Kind of very short time to think and create something descend together (meaning as automated as possible)

- Where will you get the scroes from ?
- how do you envisioning entering these scores ? Keyboard, a streamdeck , how much correction options you want etc
- are they given sequentially or all tegether ( see your doubling need)

There are several possibilities from very basic but lot of manual work during actual operation to almost fully automatic but one needs all the specifics (even scoring rules) in order to even be able to achieve this.
FYI the grafix/title is only the display of the work that is needed (input and calculations)
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Hello Doggy. I did it last year with an excel as data source. The jury gave the points for the five different criteria through the speakers. Manually adding the values in the excel and (CTRL+S) for every update... This seems still to be the quickest method for now, but was wondering if there was anything possible with Universal title controller because this pulls data imediate..
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Hello Doggy. I did it last year with an excel as data source. The jury gave the points for the five different criteria through the speakers. Manually adding the values in the excel and (CTRL+S) for every update... This seems still to be the quickest method for now, but was wondering if there was anything possible with Universal title controller because this pulls data imediate..


ok , you have to rely on hearing the speaker (hopefully correct to be "officiall")
I do not work with universal titel controller as i customm make my interfaces be it with vMix script but more often external scripts (forms) and specifically to the task at hand.

Personally i would in this case make a form where i manually put in the scores per judge (as quick as inputting them in an excel )
each input would then feed the title directly at the appropriate field as one goes , when all are entered it would then automatically update with the needed criteria ( doubling) and again send to the title ( or auto create a datasource file connected to the graphics )
it would include options to correct/delete etc or if needed incorporate other rules .
At least that is what i would be doing , a form with just what i need in terms of inputs etc . Takes a bit of prepping but then it saves me tons of work during the event and is operable by a third person too.

As an example , i have a scoring application that cover snooker (pool game), it includes the scoring rules meaning i can only enter certain points based on the progress of the game (colored ball rules) and auto generate the totals, or jump to other options based on current results etc , the specific graphics are fed by that , i can step back in the processs quickly to correct mistakes and so on and best of all anyone willing to jump in to help can easely operate it with little to no explenation as the form basically dictates what they are allowed to do. Grnted not something one makes in just a few days (debugging always is needed)

In general its not so much how the data is fed to the graphics but how one inputs the data that is the key ( userfriendliness). as far as i understand here it would be entering a judges score , auto jump to next judges entry and when all entered hit total while at the same itme it is reflected in the graphics all within an simple windows form (fields to enter scores and buttons to accept a bit depending on your favoured way of operating )
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maybe if you post a sample of what you are working with, just that I have an idea, I may be able to give you some better advice .... just maybe, no promise
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maybe if you post a sample of what you are working with, just that I have an idea, I may be able to give you some better advice .... just maybe, no promise


The design of the title is very straightforward and just has textfields that need to be fed by data. For me it is indeed important to be able to add the values as they are announced 'live' and the (total)*2 is calculated realtime.
And in case of an error a certain value can be corrected as well. Afterwards the title has to be zero'ed for the next horse.

@Doggy, I agree with your quote "In general its not so much how the data is fed to the graphics but how one inputs the data that is the key ( userfriendliness).
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maybe if you post a sample of what you are working with, just that I have an idea, I may be able to give you some better advice .... just maybe, no promise


The design of the title is very straightforward and just has textfields that need to be fed by data. For me it is indeed important to be able to add the values as they are announced 'live' and the (total)*2 is calculated realtime.
And in case of an error a certain value can be corrected as well. Afterwards the title has to be zero'ed for the next horse.


Yes, straitforward:

What data goes where
you mentioned 5 scores but there are 6 blocks
Which blocks have to be updated and when
etc


What is the most annoying thing about putting the score into excel and getting it to vMix ? The inut or sending or ...
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maybe if you post a sample of what you are working with, just that I have an idea, I may be able to give you some better advice .... just maybe, no promise


The design of the title is very straightforward and just has textfields that need to be fed by data. For me it is indeed important to be able to add the values as they are announced 'live' and the (total)*2 is calculated realtime.
And in case of an error a certain value can be corrected as well. Afterwards the title has to be zero'ed for the next horse.


Yes, straitforward:

What data goes where
you mentioned 5 scores but there are 6 blocks
Which blocks have to be updated and when
etc


What is the most annoying thing about putting the score into excel and getting it to vMix ? The inut or sending or ...


scoreboard-filled.jpg (358kb) downloaded 2 time(s).
The most annoying is saving the excel every time after each input (e.g. Stap/draf...) and zero-ing the content for the next horse Also followed by a save.
With vmix UTC I am able to quickly edit the values in every field and reset these afterwards.
Only culplrit is the second digit that needs to be inserted. (as far as I can see there can only be an increment by 1) and the calculation of the total result
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scoreboard-filled.jpg (358kb) downloaded 2 time(s).
The most annoying is saving the excel every time after each input (e.g. Stap/draf...) and zero-ing the content for the next horse Also followed by a save.
With vmix UTC I am able to quickly edit the values in every field and reset these afterwards.
Only culplrit is the second digit that needs to be inserted. (as far as I can see there can only be an increment by 1) and the calculation of the total result



Thanks , this is much cleaarer allready
You do now that Excel can use Macros right? (checking cellvalues etc and call functions, adde buttons and so on )
One of them is to send the data directly to vMix from within Excel ussing vMix functions without the need to hit the save first
If you streamline your excel operation (and formatting) combined with sending the result to vMix IMO would be the quickest way to solve and avoid designing a form to do exactly the same ( Heck even excel can create forms)

example: https://forums.vmix.com/...dynamical-text#post12905


Personally is what i would do with a small custom windows form
Screenshot 2025-01-23 135816.png (571kb) downloaded 0 time(s).

data would be send to the title as score is entered (don't know your title textfieldnames)
Could be operated from another computer (by adding a IP option)
Build in extra rules , formulas , display formats, ....

BTW, Dont see any doubling of the score!!!
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This is really great! And for the doubling; I have two example videos that have different calculations ;-) I will try to figure out how to make a form in Visual basic. As this is a quit nice and neat solution. If it isn't too much of a hassle: Would you like to send me the form? Then I can reverse engineer it for myself. THANKS!
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Originally Posted by: Ceasare Go to Quoted Post
Would you like to send me the form? Then I can reverse engineer it for myself. THANKS!


Peter1000 has generated a tool that can copy messages into vmix Titles, that you maybe can adapt to your needs. Or Look on his „html Button Panel“. Maybe ask him for go?


If you go one step further and create a small program or html-Page for each judge, that send the Score to a vmix title and with a script dobble the value and so on, then you don't always have to type in the values; the judges do it themselves. This saves you mistakes when listening and typing.

Look here
https://tvcrew.ch/wiki/d...p?id=vmix_clipboard_copy

https://tvcrew.ch/wiki/doku.php?id=start
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