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Mari  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:52:41 PM(UTC)
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Hello,

I have a program that generates an overlay (in a window, with transparent background), but I'm not able to get this "overlay" as an input in vMix.

I am still at version 21 of vMix (maybe that is the issue) and the only option is to add a desktop screencapture but that only works as I put that overlay on display 2 and then the background isn't transparant any more.

- Am I doing something wrong?
- Is the newest version of vMix capable in what I want (others use OBS, but I prefer vMix)?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2025 7:42:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mari Go to Quoted Post
I am still at version 21 of vMix (maybe that is the issue)


What is holding you back on updating your vMix , we are almost at v28 and many things have inproved over the YEARS !

Don't proof that its true what Belgians say about the Dutch LOL ;-)
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2025 9:14:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
What is holding you back on updating your vMix , we are almost at v28 and many things have inproved over the YEARS !


When I get a positive reply on how to do it I will definitely upgrade vMix ;-)


I've read the vMix user guide about desktop capturing... but when I capture a window I only get a black screen, not what is in that window. User guide says maybe to change the capture method, but I can't find that option... Therefore I wanted to know if this is a limitation of the version I have or a new feature that is in a newer version!

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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2025 9:18:55 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mari Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
What is holding you back on updating your vMix , we are almost at v28 and many things have inproved over the YEARS !


When I get a positive reply on how to do it I will definitely upgrade vMix ;-)


I've read the vMix user guide about desktop capturing... but when I capture a window I only get a black screen, not what is in that window. User guide says maybe to change the capture method, but I can't find that option... Therefore I wanted to know if this is a limitation of the version I have or a new feature that is in a newer version!



I cant remember as of when but now one can capture (NDI/desktop capture) any open window/gui from within vMix
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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:15:57 PM(UTC)
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Is the transparent background integral to your show or can you just drop the layer to the bit you need to see?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:30:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
I cant remember as of when but now one can capture (NDI/desktop capture) any open window/gui from within vMix


That option is available but I end up with a black screen and not what is shown in that window.


Originally Posted by: spinfold Go to Quoted Post
Is the transparent background integral to your show or can you just drop the layer to the bit you need to see?


The window that I want to use for overlay is constantly changing data that is shown. The rest of that window is transparent. It is specially made for that. In OBS it is possible, but I can't seem to get this windon as input in vMix.

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#7 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 7:13:26 AM(UTC)
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With the screen capture in vMix change the capture mode from the dropdown at the buttom of the screen and try them out.
https://www.vmix.com/hel...LocalDesktopCapture.html
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#8 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 9:01:01 AM(UTC)
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You haven't read post #3... ;-)

How do I change the capture mode? That is not in the vMix user guide!
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#9 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 9:00:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mari Go to Quoted Post
You haven't read post #3... ;-)

How do I change the capture mode? That is not in the vMix user guide!


The change of capture method is not possible in vMix 21, in 27 it is. Do you have another computer to test the current version of vMix?
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#10 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 9:36:12 PM(UTC)
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Hi. Personally i would not be surprised if something "simple" in obs is difficult/needs workaround things in vmix. Im saying this because you mentioned obs. Other than this personally I can't understand what exactly you need to do. If possible post a screenshot with non personal details-infos on what you like to do, so we will see if possible in Vmix newer versions directly,by workaround or not at all.
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#11 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 11:35:42 PM(UTC)
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Remembered I had an install of the same version of vMix on my old laptop... so checked if it was possible to add a window as input and YES is was.

So now I need to find out why it is possible on my old laptop and not on the new one...

Old: Windows 10 home
New: Windows 11
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#12 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 11:45:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mari Go to Quoted Post
Remembered I had an install of the same version of vMix on my old laptop... so checked if it was possible to add a window as input and YES is was.

So now I need to find out why it is possible on my old laptop and not on the new one...

Old: Windows 10 home
New: Windows 11


Update !!
Many tweaks have been incorportated in newer vMix releases to cope with Windows 11 quircks and NDI versions etc in last last 5-6 years.
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#13 Posted : Friday, January 3, 2025 11:56:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mari Go to Quoted Post
Remembered I had an install of the same version of vMix on my old laptop... so checked if it was possible to add a window as input and YES is was.

So now I need to find out why it is possible on my old laptop and not on the new one...

Old: Windows 10 home
New: Windows 11


Update !!
Many tweaks have been incorportated in newer vMix releases to cope with Windows 11 quircks and NDI versions etc in last last 5-6 years.

Right and also from Vmix 27 if i remember well the default way screen capture has changed compared to previous versions.
Also something weird i see here. What is the windows 11 version? Because as we allready know no Vmix version prior to vmix 25 (with the latest update) is capable to run on windows 11 latest (24h2) version. So i assume for to be able to run Vmix 21 the windows 11 version is 23H2.
And without trying the same procedure noone can tell with 100% (maybe except the vmix team support) that the old process from Windows 10 even with the latest vmix version will run same way in the latest win(shit)dows version
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#14 Posted : Saturday, January 4, 2025 12:19:39 AM(UTC)
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... to make a long story short...

- removed v21
- installed v27

Was able to get window as input... so bought myself a year of updates for vMix... so Doggy... I'm not a cheap@ss ;-)

Thnx to all that replied....

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#15 Posted : Saturday, January 4, 2025 12:22:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mari Go to Quoted Post
... to make a long story short...

- removed v21
- installed v27

Was able to get window as input... so bought myself a year of updates for vMix... so Doggy... I'm not a cheap@ss ;-)

Thnx to all that replied....



LOL glad you proved me wrong, but took you a while ;-)
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#16 Posted : Saturday, January 4, 2025 8:29:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
LOL glad you proved me wrong, but took you a while ;-)


Had other important things to do... ;-)



But my problem is not solved completely, I now have that window in vMix, but when I use it as overlay it covers the complete screen, as of the transparent part is not transparent any more...


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As you can see the window on top has a transparent background...

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Added window as desktop capture...


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activated desktop capture as overlay... covers almost complete screen...


I've played around with the "color key" option, but then some of the parts that I need will disappear also... must be something simple, but don't know what?

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#17 Posted : Saturday, January 4, 2025 9:51:12 PM(UTC)
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It seems to me you want to get rid of the black. Have you tried the luminance key to remove it.
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Try putting it on a transparent color input .

ANy specific settings the app/windows allows you to set ?
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#19 Posted : Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:01:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mavik Go to Quoted Post
It seems to me you want to get rid of the black. Have you tried the luminance key to remove it.

Tried that, then parts that I need disappear

Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
Try putting it on a transparent color input .

Can you explain what you mean by that? Or explain how to do that?

Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
ANy specific settings the app/windows allows you to set ?

Can't change anything in that app/window, only size...
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#20 Posted : Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:06:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doggy Go to Quoted Post
Try putting it on a transparent color input .

Can you explain what you mean by that? Or explain how to do that?

Add Input, select color and select transparent
then add as layer the captured input on the colored one <g>
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