logo

Live Production Software Forums


Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
wkrasley  
#1 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 4:09:10 PM(UTC)
wkrasley

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/5/2014(UTC)
Posts: 25
Location: Sanford, NC

I have been using Osprey PCI capture cards for the past 2 years with the SD version of VMix. The camera quality was not all that good but the green screen backgrounds were great. I decided to try some HDMI PCI-E cards. I have tried the Black Magic Decklink Mini recorder and 2 other Black magic PCI-E cards as well as a few generic cards. My problem is that I have a hard time capturing 2 cameras (cards) at a time. I have mixed and matched them and still cannot get them to both work in VMix. I had 2 of them working in the broadcast computer for about 2 weeks and last Thursday when I booted the computer, they were both gone. I finally managed to get one back, but I need 2 cameras for our show. I am running Windows 10. I tried different computers with different motherboards with the same results.
I have 2 questions. 1. If I upgrade to the HD version of VMix and use the osprey cards, will the video get better?
2. How do I get 2 PCI-E capture cards to work at the same time?
SportsNetUSA.net  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 12:55:29 AM(UTC)
SportsNetUSA.net

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/7/2015(UTC)
Posts: 635
Location: California

Thanks: 122 times
Was thanked: 123 time(s) in 115 post(s)
Certainly you can get two PCI-E cards to work in the same system.

What Osprey PCI capture cards do you have?

What specific "generic" cards did you try?

Is your system using the latest Black Magic drivers?

What length are the HDMI cables you are using?
IceStream  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:07:37 AM(UTC)
IceStream

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/7/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,603
Man
Location: Canada

Thanks: 33 times
Was thanked: 501 time(s) in 470 post(s)
@ wkrasley

1. I suspect NO...
If this is an older Osprey PCI card capturing SD via RCA/BNC, you are not likely to get a "better" image by up-converting using vMix HD (what card is it?). Every link in the chain is important, but you are only as strong as the weakest link. Also, what are the specs of your cameras and your system? If, on the other hand, you are currently downconverting an HD signal to SD, then capturing and processing the HD signal accordingly in HD, will be an improvement.
2. Newer cards and/or a multi-input capture card might be a better solution for you (Decklink Duo or Quad) if you are having issues using two or more cards on your system.


Ice
ovinas  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 11:38:35 AM(UTC)
ovinas

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/4/2013(UTC)
Posts: 308
Man
Location: Germany

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 57 time(s) in 49 post(s)
Never had any problem using two DeckLink Mini Recorder PCIe in my Win10/vMix PC.
Mathijs  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:35:26 PM(UTC)
Mathijs

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/24/2015(UTC)
Posts: 370
Location: Netherlands

Thanks: 16 times
Was thanked: 81 time(s) in 72 post(s)
Which mainboard is in the system and which slots are populated? With lots of mainboards there are multiple PCIe slots, but you can't use them all at the same time. Check the mainboard manual for limitations like this.
Siroki  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:25:29 AM(UTC)
Siroki

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/10/2015(UTC)
Posts: 322
Man
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Location: Siroki Brijeg

Thanks: 8 times
Was thanked: 27 time(s) in 24 post(s)
I have Decklink Mini Recorder and Intensity Pro capture cards and they both work on same time great...But I had problems before until I bought new motherboard with more pci-x slots

Try to put one card in x16 and second in x1 or x4 slot if you have one.

I had Lenovo PC and motherboard didnt work, it only allows one card on x16 slot but the two of x1 slots didn't recognize the cards so I suspect you have the same problem. In my case on slots that I have on same time I could just use network card

If your card Osprey is SD you won't get HD , it can't measure with HD capture cards
ovinas  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:42:02 AM(UTC)
ovinas

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/4/2013(UTC)
Posts: 308
Man
Location: Germany

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 57 time(s) in 49 post(s)
Here's my configuration:
Asus Z87M-Plus Mainboard
Slot 1 (from top) PCIe x16: Nvidia GTX 750
Slot 2 PCIe x1: DeckLink Mini Recorder
Slot 3 PCIe x1: DeckLink Mini Recorder
Slot 4 PCIe x16

Working fine. Check your mainboard manual for instructions about using and limitations of the PCIe slots.
ovinas attached the following image(s):
IMG_20150711_093228.jpg (597kb) downloaded 8 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
Mathijs  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:22:33 PM(UTC)
Mathijs

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/24/2015(UTC)
Posts: 370
Location: Netherlands

Thanks: 16 times
Was thanked: 81 time(s) in 72 post(s)
In the manual they say the following:

The PCIe x16_2 slot shares bandwidth with PCIe x1_2 slot. The default setting is x2
mode. Go to the BIOS setup to change the settings.

So go into the BIOS and check the x16_2 slot is set at x2 mode. If it is in x4 mode, the PCIe x1_2 slot is not connected and because of that not working.

If that is not the cause, try to insert one card into x1_1 and the other in the bottom slot.

You should be able to use all ports on that mainboard, only if the bottom one is set to x4 mode, it will take the lane away from x1_2.
ovinas  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:34:14 PM(UTC)
ovinas

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/4/2013(UTC)
Posts: 308
Man
Location: Germany

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 57 time(s) in 49 post(s)
@Mathijs
Thx, but my system is working fine. It was just an example for wkrasley to show that it works in general and what he has to check. We don't know the type of his mainboard so it's a little bit tricky to give exact advice. But your explanation could help him to realize what he should look for.
Mathijs  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:55:24 PM(UTC)
Mathijs

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/24/2015(UTC)
Posts: 370
Location: Netherlands

Thanks: 16 times
Was thanked: 81 time(s) in 72 post(s)
Ok, I did not look at the name and went straight for the answer ;)

But indeed, something like that is what he needs to check.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.