Me too. What is it that's generating the NDI stream(s) on the laptop?

And perhaps you could post a screen grab of the NDI Analysis output window where it shows the stream to be NDI|HX?

This is the readings from NDI Analysis for both my laptop and my desktop

1: name="ASUS-VIDEO-LAPTOP (vMix - Output 1)"
host="192.168.79.38"
port="5961"
type="NDI|HX"
2: name="BUSINESS (vMix - Output 1)"
host="192.168.79.39"
port="5961"
type="NDI"

As you can see the Laptop output is stating it is a NDI/HX source but how is this possible. Below are the source readings for both NDI streams:
Laptop Stream
10:20:15.723: Video receiver creation succeeded.
10:20:15.723: Audio receiver creation succeeded.
10:20:23.730: Video connection opened.
10:20:23.733: Audio connection opened.
10:20:23.737: Tally program=false preview=true
10:20:23.737: Product, Long name=vMix 4K - 22.0.0.66 x64
10:20:23.737: Product, Short name=vMix
10:20:23.738: Product, Model=4K
10:20:23.738: Product, Manufacturer=vMix
10:20:23.738: Product, Version=22.0.0.66
10:20:23.739: Audio format changed. 48000Hz, 2 channels.
10:20:23.763: Video format changed. 1920x1080, progressive, aspect ratio=1.78, frame-rate=50.00, no alpha channel.
10:20:25.739: Video data rate (MBps). Avg=129.23
10:20:25.739: Video size (kB). Min=277.90 Avg=310.10 +/- 23.93 Max=359.46
10:20:25.740: Video recv (mS). Min=10.22 Avg=20.00 +/- 3.91 Max=30.93
10:20:25.740: Video send (mS). Min=17.77 Avg=20.00 +/- 0.87 Max=21.98
10:20:25.741: Audio data rate (MBps). Avg=0.00
10:20:25.741: Audio size (kB). Min=0.00 Avg=0.00 +/- 0.00 Max=0.00
10:20:25.741: Audio recv (mS). Min=12.95 Avg=20.01 +/- 2.86 Max=26.99
10:20:25.742: Audio send (mS). Min=19.45 Avg=20.00 +/- 0.28 Max=20.99
10:20:25.744: Video receiver destroyed.
10:20:25.761: Audio receiver destroyed.

Desktop Stream
10:21:31.626: Video receiver creation succeeded.
10:21:31.626: Audio receiver creation succeeded.
10:21:39.630: Video connection opened.
10:21:39.631: Audio connection opened.
10:21:39.632: Product, Long name=vMix 4K - 22.0.0.60 x64
10:21:39.632: Product, Short name=vMix
10:21:39.633: Product, Model=4K
10:21:39.633: Product, Manufacturer=vMix
10:21:39.635: Product, Version=22.0.0.60
10:21:39.643: Audio format changed. 48000Hz, 2 channels.
10:21:40.670: Video format changed. 1920x1080, progressive, aspect ratio=1.78, frame-rate=50.00, no alpha channel.
10:21:41.642: Video data rate (MBps). Avg=99.22
10:21:41.642: Video size (kB). Min=232.73 Avg=245.77 +/- 8.79 Max=277.08
10:21:41.643: Video recv (mS). Min=16.04 Avg=20.01 +/- 1.92 Max=24.64
10:21:41.644: Video send (mS). Min=16.32 Avg=20.02 +/- 1.85 Max=23.62
10:21:41.644: Audio data rate (MBps). Avg=1.54
10:21:41.644: Audio size (kB). Min=3.85 Avg=3.85 +/- 0.00 Max=3.85
10:21:41.644: Audio recv (mS). Min=18.63 Avg=20.00 +/- 0.54 Max=21.44
10:21:41.645: Audio send (mS). Min=18.79 Avg=20.00 +/- 0.51 Max=21.18
10:21:41.646: Video receiver destroyed.
10:21:41.653: Audio receiver destroyed.

I can't see from these rates how the laptop can be NDI/HX. Both machines are playing video files with the same type of content but they aren't the same files.

Hi,

That analysis was using NDI Analysis and it is of a Desktop VMix NDI stream and my laptop NDI Stream. The NDI Analysis of the streams was done on the Desktop but I get exactly the same results if I run NDI Analysis on the Laptop. I mentioned the Tricaster to say it isn't an issue with the network switch or the cabling.

The streams are both being generated by VMix.

I have tried OBS and I get exactly the same result from the Laptop.

I have also tried VLC with NDI plugin and again NDI Analysis states the Laptop is outputting NDI:HX.

I'll try an unmanaged switch tomorrow.

I have done the following experiment:

Disconnected both computers from the Edgeswitch 8 and replaced it with a Netgear GS108 un-managed switch. I also reset the network adapters on both computers.

I have run NDI Analysis and the results are 2 Full NDI streams no NDI:HX

I then plugged the Edgeswitch back into the 2 computers and rest the network adapters on both computers again.

I re-run NDI Analysis but this time it only found 1 FUll NDI Stream which was from the Laptop but didn't see the NDI stream from the desktop yet NDI Monitor does.

I have had to turn off NDI on the computer that wasn't streaming NDI and then turn NDI back on to get it to work and be discovered by NDI Analysis.

At the route of this is main issue I have with NDI and that it isn't just plug and play. Sometimes you have to reboot network cards. Sometimes you have to reboot VMix. None of which are viable options for a client during a production as they lose transmission for upto a couple of minutes.

That's good progress.

Earlier in my career switchers (GVG, BTS, SONY, Ross, etc) were big hulking devices that ran embedded operating systems that cost $$$ and were intended for 24/7 operation. Now you're on windows. It's a different world.

Where in the past you had to worry about drivers for capture cards, etc...now you have other issues. It's laughable but true, in many cases rebooting a Windows box cleans up a lot of mess.

NDI, or any network based protocol, is going to demand that you know more about networking. Moving from an unmanaged network to a managed network is not trivial.

You have proven out that, true to Newtek's word that NDI Analysis is in beta, it can't be trusted.

It's a bold claim, but for many people that has been the case. I've had zeros real issues thus far. I have invested a lot of time in experimentation.

My worry is more about Newtek. There's plainly a significant bug in NDI Analysis. There may be some shared code with other products. That suggests other issues may arise.