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#1 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 9:12:47 AM(UTC)
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vMix 10 Preview (10.0.0.36 Beta) is finally here!

Please Note: This is a preview release for those who like to live on the edge! There will still be some bugs, so it is not recommended for production use.

http://www.vmix.com.au/download/vmix10preview.exe

Your feedback is greatly appreciated, please report any bugs or issues in this thread.

Changes and Features
* MP4 Recording Support (Fast Core i7 CPU recommended)
* Two separate outputs are now available.
-One for Fullscreen and one for External, Streaming and Recording.
-Outputs can be configured to display Output, Preview, MultiView and Inputs
-New MultiView output option includes Preview, Output and up to 8 Inputs on one display
* Support for additional codecs in 64bit version including CineForm and Lagarith
* Support for more RTSP devices
* Renamed RTSP tab to "Stream" and added support for H264 Transport Streams such as Teradek Bond/Sputnik
* Separate resolutions for External and Virtual Capture outputs
* Live button added to title editor. When de-activated text changes will be previewed only
* External Output can now be stopped and started while in use by a 3rd party program
* Image Sequence now uses up to 10x less memory
* Countdown timer supports displaying up to 99 minutes when in minute:seconds format
* Performance improvements across the board
* All inputs are now genlocked (synchronised) with the global frame rate
* Image Input will dynamically check for updates to the source image
* Stingers can be configured as "Stinger 1" and "Stinger 2" on any transition button
* Stingers are now frame accurate, with frame cut point toggle in Overlay settings
* Overlays can now be previewed by right clicking the 1,2,3,4 buttons
* Updated PlayList manager, it is now easier to switch between different preset playlists
* Many more API options available including GUID support
* Added API functions for Deinterlace, Sharpen, Mirror, Picture Transitions, Alpha, Volume and more
* MultiCorder supports selecting different folders for each camera
* Many bug fixes and general improvements

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Martin
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#2 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 9:41:20 AM(UTC)
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This sounds great...

Well done Martin and kudos...

let the testing begins.......!
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#3 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 10:29:42 AM(UTC)
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Awesome, I'm already loving improvements, and some design changes :)

Tho, I have some problems, and if I found any other I'll post them in this post:

1. Lenovo web cam input not working in 10.0.0.36, works fine in 9.1.0.37, tried 32 and 64 bit versions it's the same
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Some suggestions:
1. Add audio options at every input, as for example audio from camera is built in, and I can't set it as input without audio, and every time I need to manually turn OFF audio on that input when I change the scene!
2. The problem I'm having isn't maybe related to VMix, but it works in OBS, when I want to send a hotkey from my iPad to VMix with Actions server app as for example turning off overlay, VMix automatically comes as the first software on desktop, and opens which isn't good, I want it to stay in background working, as OBS does!
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#4 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 10:58:54 AM(UTC)
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Finally! Thank you for the preview, let the show beginn!
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#5 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 10:59:25 AM(UTC)
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I Love it!!! You are the best!!!!!! Thank you for the preview option!
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#6 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 11:44:40 AM(UTC)
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Hi Martin,

If i want to change the xaml input with configured names and infos from the drop down menu, only the first one is showed.

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#7 Posted : Monday, July 1, 2013 11:19:16 PM(UTC)
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Released an update (10.0.0.38) to resolve a couple of issues:

* Title presets were not applying correctly due to new live feature
* MP4 frame rate was incorrect
* Users could not change transition button when set as a Stinger

http://www.vmix.com.au/download/vmix10preview.exe

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:16:24 AM(UTC)
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martin, you did not mention the fact that vmix 10 is now able to remember the preferred multiview settings! this way i can reuse my custom multiview output. thank you very much !

i am testing and trying...

one thing i noticed is tha in the capture input information under general the capture info about framerates etc has been removed. i use this to test the stable flow of the input and monitor the reult of different settings also on the camera.

where can i find this capture device specific info in v10...

also trying the mp4 recording option. if i want to upload to youtube, what are the specific settings there. we had some debate related to framerates on youtube either 25 or 29.... would be good to have a youtube 720p mp4 setting available...

thanks and i will keep on testing and discovering...
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:17:51 AM(UTC)
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Hi Stefan,

There is now a new button in the bottom right hand corner which contains statistics
from all inputs. It is the button with the coloured bars.

It should give a greater view of any potential bottlenecks.

A 1280x720 4 Mbit MP4 is probably a good starting point for direct YouTube upload.
I'm not sure the frame rate matters to YouTube that much so sticking with the source is recommended.

Regards,

Martin
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:02:35 AM(UTC)
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hi Martin,

found ithe improved input info and it works ok. this gives me a direct and realtime insight in the framerate comming in and it confirms the stable input setting my panasonic camera hdmi output to progressive...

i also checked youtube specifications. they recommend 5 mbps bitrate for 720p with original progressive framerate. i tried varying the bitrate in therecording setup but no change detected in the recorded mp4 file. so i guess the settings do not come through... can you check...

gr stefan

by the way i am also testing with a avermedia game broadcaster hd card with hdmi and vga input. results so far are good, and price wise also a good option. will meet with m@ik tomorrow to discuss more technical issues and optimistions. will keep testing the new version...
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:14:09 AM(UTC)
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hi martin, glad to see this new preview.

after a little testing, found some issues that might be help you to improve v10:

*green screen in few first frames when start mp4 recording;
*on streaming feature, 64kbps audio data rate is not possible to select, vmix says "Invalid Data Rate", error report sended, choosing 96kbps it streams at 64kbps;
*mixing at "pal 50p" and streaming at "pal 25p and 50i" works fine but when starting mp4 recording at "pal 50p" my firewire cameras slows down to 21fps some moments after and some blocks are displayed on inputs. recording at "pal 25p and 50i" works well. (The idea is mixing and recording at 50p and stream at 25p)

recently, we upgraded our cpu to an Intel 4770 and our motherboard to an asus z87-c. we are using an amd hd 5750 1gb. we hoping to change our graphic card to a geforce in short time.

for those who have experiencing firewire problems, i recommend LAV Video Decoder... this is an extremely super powerfull stable decoder. for me, it works better than any other vídeo decoder.

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edit: 64kbps MONO
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:04:42 PM(UTC)
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Hi Melody,

96kbps is the minimum supported by FMLE, the dropdown does not support 64kbps so this error message is correct.
The MP4 issue sounds CPU related, what is the cpu usage in vMix?

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:03:22 PM(UTC)
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its realy strange, in v9 i streamed at 64kbps, 1 channel. i believe that 96kbps is the minimum supported for Stereo - 2 channels, but for Mono - 1 channel, the minimum must be 32kbps. maybe some dropdown list with "Mono - Stereo" or "1 Channel - 2 Channels" in streaming feature would be nice.

for the mp4 issue, i thinked the same as you. when i stop the recording all comes back to normal... the cpu usage for vmix is around 20%-25%... global cpu usage on task manager is 60% peak. note that i am using 1920x1080 for mixing, recording and external output (then i do a resize to 640x360 in streaming feature)

sorry for this question that is not related with the above, which software do you recommend for a better resize on output? vmix or FMLE?

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edit: to clarify this post, i am using aac encoder
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 2:21:42 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

When I try to setup recording in x64 vMix, selecting any codec except DV, MJPEG and Decklink MJPEG results in the error:

Recording_OK_Button
This Codec does not support the current resolution of 160x120

Recording_OK_Button
This Codec does not support the current resolution of 1280x720

Recording_OK_Button
This Codec does not support the current resolution of 1920x1080


As you can see, resolution doesn't seem to matter. I've tried Lagarith, Go Pro Cineform, and some of the Blackmagic 4:2:2 options.

Thanks!
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:40:36 PM(UTC)
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Hi Grimble,

If you haven't sent error reports already, please send them.
Have you tried re-installing? vMix 10 includes a codec adapter
for the other codecs that needs to be registered so maybe something strange
happened during install.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:05:24 PM(UTC)
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Hello Martin,

i'm testing some of the new API features, especially the ones we discussed for the scheduling application. First one i tested is using GUIDs as reference. Works quite well, and will help my further developement greatly! But something is weired: when i try to remove an input that is already closed, vMix will close another input instead, it seems it always closes the second input in that case. That's a bad thing to happen, as i would still have to poll the status page to see if the input i'm going to close is really still there... Could you please look into this?

Going to test more features in the next couple of days, so expect me to bother you more... ;-)
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#17 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 2:50:11 AM(UTC)
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admin wrote:
If you haven't sent error reports already, please send them.
Have you tried re-installing? vMix 10 includes a codec adapter
for the other codecs that needs to be registered so maybe something strange
happened during install.


Hi,

I've just sent a bunch of error reports. I've also done a reinstall with a reboot, no joy.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 5:20:15 AM(UTC)
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admin wrote:

* Separate resolutions for External and Virtual Capture outputs


This is great news - a very useful feature for us. Thanks.

admin wrote:
* Two separate outputs are now available.
-One for Fullscreen and one for External, Streaming and Recording.
-Outputs can be configured to display Output, Preview, MultiView and Inputs
-New MultiView output option includes Preview, Output and up to 8 Inputs on one display


Could it be possible to send 4 or 6 (or 9) first inputs to a secondary monitor? Live production setups differ case by case - sometimes there 4 cameras and sometimes there might be 3 cameras and 3 delays. One input is usually not enough in such cases and 2 or 3 inputs are inefficient to display on widescreen monitor.

Regards,
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#19 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:31:59 AM(UTC)
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A new update has been released (10.0.0.40)

* Dragging elements inside a Virtual Set now works correctly
* Enabling MultiView cropping did not work as expected
* RemoveInput function no longer defaults to Preview when input no longer exists
* Fixed error when recording with new AVI codecs

http://www.vmix.com.au/download/vmix10preview.exe

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#20 Posted : Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:34:07 AM(UTC)
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Dundurs,

The MultiView output option displays up to 8 inputs at once so that might be suitable.
You can also create a MultiView input with the inputs you want to see and then set that as the fullscreen output.

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