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witsok  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 14, 2022 7:56:17 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

This is my first try with MV.
What can I do to make the changes between screens smoother.
Right now I can see overlaps.

It's a change between 3 MVs.
I use the merge transition to give it a TV style.
But something is missing...

Please have a look and share you opinion.
link



Witold
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#2 Posted : Monday, February 14, 2022 8:35:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: witsok Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

This is my first try with MV.
What can I do to make the changes between screens smoother.
Right now I can see overlaps.

It's a change between 3 MVs.
I use the merge transition to give it a TV style.
But something is missing...

Please have a look and share you opinion.
link



Witold


longer transition times needed for starters

Make sure each MV you merge to has all the same layers included
witsok  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 2:53:55 AM(UTC)
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Here are my current vmix settings for all MVs
[img=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ItOrhMHORkJCo56HyFkLI0ZxuTmvhEve/view?usp=sharing]image[/img]

Here how it goes after the change
What do you think?
Any room for improvement?

yt link
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:40:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: witsok Go to Quoted Post
Here are my current vmix settings for all MVs
[img=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ItOrhMHORkJCo56HyFkLI0ZxuTmvhEve/view?usp=sharing]image[/img]

Here how it goes after the change
What do you think?
Any room for improvement?

yt link


Forget the triggers for now and understand the basics of merging with MV's first , the trigger situation is only there in case the order of the layers create a more like fade effect

As i mentioned before for proper smooth merge transitions you need duplicates of your Multiview EACH containing ALL layers ( where in each MV these layers have different positions )





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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:27:30 AM(UTC)
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OK. changed as per your instructions

all 3 MVs have the same layers
all images being placed at different layers

this is the outcome

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/embed/yHPVQ8jsrmg[/YOUTUBE]
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 6:22:00 AM(UTC)
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Maybe I don't get something.
Please check this zip file with all graphics and MVs.

zip

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:25:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: witsok Go to Quoted Post
OK. changed as per your instructions

all 3 MVs have the same layers
all images being placed at different layers



No you haven't

Each MV same layers with same content with different positions , NOT inputs at different layers, extra layers and one can not start to mix and match different images

Maybe basic example will make things a bit more clear with FILES.zip
(small pic remaining are there for clarity of intention)








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#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 4:35:16 AM(UTC)
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Ok I more or less get it.

I want to switch between an MV with 3 small screens and 1 big screen.
I have created virtual copies of the MV with a big screen with all layers.

Now what do I do to change between a given image in the big screen MV and the MV with 3 small screens?

It only works for me if I uncheck 2 of the 3 layers in the big screen MV.
Otherwise the big screen shows the image at the highest layer.

What do I do with the other layers that I don't need to show?

Finally, Even when I uncheck the other 2 layers the merge is not smooth enough.
In the output screen I can see how the layers overlap.

Sorry to bother you but please have a look at this recording one more time.

LINK

Witold
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 5:09:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: witsok Go to Quoted Post
Ok I more or less get it.

I want to switch between an MV with 3 small screens and 1 big screen.
I have created virtual copies of the MV with a big screen with all layers.

Now what do I do to change between a given image in the big screen MV and the MV with 3 small screens?

It only works for me if I uncheck 2 of the 3 layers in the big screen MV.
Otherwise the big screen shows the image at the highest layer.

What do I do with the other layers that I don't need to show?

Finally, Even when I uncheck the other 2 layers the merge is not smooth enough.
In the output screen I can see how the layers overlap.

Sorry to bother you but please have a look at this recording one more time.

LINK

Witold


STOP USING THOSE BACKGROUND IMAGES with the frames and definatly DO NOT CHANGE THEM between MV's . ALL MV's youu want to merge between need to have their inputs to be the same and present and in same order !

Use a base background without those frames , add the frames to the people inputs ( direclty or layers)
in the last video one can see that the "not used" inputs are reduced in size = are still there ( they were left smal still to make the change clear but can be as samll as one pixel or can move to outside the frame etc etc. is also how you can go from 3 on the side to 2 on the side for example

Did you download the include .zip file in that recent post with video ? https://forums.vmix.com/posts/m99810-MultiView-not-smooth-enough#post99810

DO NOT unscheck layers as they need to be active for proper merging

zipfile.png (62kb) downloaded 0 time(s).

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 6:49:15 AM(UTC)
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Quote:
STOP USING THOSE BACKGROUND IMAGES with the frames


ok, no more frames in the background

Quote:
ALL MV's youu want to merge between need to have their inputs to be the same and present and in same order !


done

Quote:
add the frames to the people inputs ( direclty or layers)


added as top layer now

Quote:
in the last video one can see that the "not used" inputs are reduced in size = are still there ( they were left smal still to make the change clear but can be as samll as one pixel or can move to outside the frame


inputs are put outside the frame, but now I can see how they move
it's not good

Quote:
DO NOT unscheck layers as they need to be active for proper merging


all layers are checked now

Have a look

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what else can be done to improve the outcome?
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 6:58:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: witsok Go to Quoted Post

inputs are put outside the frame, but now I can see how they move
it's not good


Make them smaller like in the video example that was added (like zooming in /out)
That's the point of merging -> animate a position change !

Quote:
Quote:
add the frames to the people inputs ( direclty or layers)

added as top layer now


NO! to the individual inputs !

Pls study the video's ! and the files i gave a link to !
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:04:24 AM(UTC)
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NO! to the individual inputs !



no frames in MV?

they should be added to people's images?

Quote:

Pls study the video's ! and the files i gave a link to !


I wish you had added a voiceover. It's hard to follow everything.

F.e. I can't find your star background anywhere
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:10:05 AM(UTC)
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NO! to the individual inputs !



no frames in MV?

they should be added to people's images?


Like I said YES

Quote:
Quote:

Pls study the video's ! and the files i gave a link to !


I wish you had added a voiceover. It's hard to follow everything.

F.e. I can't find your star background anywhere




Click the cogwheel in the YT video frame and select slower playback speed

The star background is similar as you are using : your studio background but instead it's a video or animated gif
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:20:34 AM(UTC)
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ok, but where did you put the background.
i cannot find it in the preset.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:25:28 AM(UTC)
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ok, but where did you put the background.
i cannot find it in the preset.


was added later , in one of the free layers under the people inputs but doesnt change anything for the general concept
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#17 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2022 6:32:38 AM(UTC)
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I can't add the graphics tv frame to individual photo.
When I'm trying to resize the photo to fit into a tv frame
the frame gets resizes at the same time (becomes smaller).

What's wrong?
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#18 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2022 7:03:59 AM(UTC)
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Slow it way down. Seems lighting fast? Other than that, set looks nice
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