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kane  
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:49:32 AM(UTC)
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I think you guys might be interested.

NDI 3.0 is coming!
https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/4728
In a nutshell: multicast support, NDI-HX (high efficiently) for using NDI over wireless or lower than 1Gbit networks and the NDI PTZ protocol.

And NDI hardware products are being released! Yes, they work with vMix or anything else.
NewTek Connect Spark: https://www.newtek.com/connect/spark/
NewTek NDIHX PTZ1 Camera: https://www.newtek.com/camera/ndihx-ptz1/

Kane Peterson
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#2 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:51:32 AM(UTC)
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Hi Kane, nice news! What's the Spark's wireless protocoll and wich wifi AP do you suggest?

Domes and Spark will be @ IBC in Amsterdam?
kane  
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:45:20 PM(UTC)
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The WiFi on the Spark unit is 2 x 5db 2.4G/5G dual-band antennas IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n

I would highly recommend wireless-N and it should be a multi antenna unit. Look for a high performance WiFi unit, not your cheap $29 no name single antenna blue-light special. (Do people know what blue-light specials are anymore?)

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#4 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:21:19 PM(UTC)
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kane wrote:
(Do people know what blue-light specials are anymore?)

Kane Peterson
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They would have to know what a Kmart is first :-).

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#5 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:45:37 PM(UTC)
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They would have to know what a Kmart is first :-).

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In a few years, that will be what a K-Mart was.

Congrats to NewTek for these latest innovations, particularly the Spark.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:59:22 PM(UTC)
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Sounds great!

Is it also possible to send program back to the camera man with the NewTek Connect Spark?
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#7 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:09:00 PM(UTC)
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Insane!

What are those in and out audio jacks(?) in the Spark device for?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:22:55 PM(UTC)
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Rinsky wrote:
Sounds great!

Is it also possible to send program back to the camera man with the NewTek Connect Spark?


no
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#9 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:23:57 PM(UTC)
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r@wisla wrote:
Insane!

What are those in and out audio jacks(?) in the Spark device for?


Analog audio Line In in as an alternative to the HDMI embedded audio
kane  
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:49:13 PM(UTC)
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Rinsky wrote:
Sounds great!

Is it also possible to send program back to the camera man with the NewTek Connect Spark?


The Spark is HDMI/SDI to NDI, not he other way around.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:50:15 PM(UTC)
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r@wisla wrote:
Insane!

What are those in and out audio jacks(?) in the Spark device for?


Spark supports either digital audio on the HDMI/SDI input or you can feed it analog via the mini stereo connector (which also offers a pass-through).

Just saw that Mark answered these, should of read the entire thread first!
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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:02:51 PM(UTC)
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how will buying the device/Spark from europe work out ?
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#13 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:59:00 PM(UTC)
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doggy wrote:
how will buying the device/Spark from europe work out ?


The Spark will be available from dealers and distributors worldwide. The products ship on August 1st.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:39:32 PM(UTC)
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Still waiting for my Birddog and just ordered a Spark!

They ship to Australia YAY!!

The shopping cart let me do it. Will keep the forum posted, will the Birddog or the Spark arrive first? Loving the Wifi option on the spark, I suggested that to Birddog a year ago!
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#15 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:43:55 PM(UTC)
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Kane, let us know if there will be any promotions or multi-buy discounts. Some of my Magewell capture units are over 3 years old I'm worried they will stop working soon so I'm keen to invest in NDI vs Capture cards which I think are "The Walking Dead"
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#16 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:56:42 PM(UTC)
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Being that the product has just been introduced, I'm guessing the we are a little bit away from that. But who knows, if you contact a dealer looking to purchase a lot of units they might be willing to give a discount.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:39:23 PM(UTC)
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I don't have a dealer, Overall I find dealers to be unhelpful in Australia. (not speaking about Newtek ones, never used a Newtek dealer, I like Vmix sorry Kane, I'm good with building my own PC).

They seem to mark up products and don't want to know me when there is a problem with the product and they are held accountable. Sorry it's rare to find a dealer in Australia who adds value these days. They are usually less informed than I am, which frustrates me as the point of them making the 20%+ commission on the way through is to be more knowledgeable, take care of returns and shipping issues. Essentially I pay them to save me time. If they cost me time, why should I pay them.

I've lost respect for most re-sellers or dealers. I do sometimes find some who blow my socks off, but they are rare. Most seem to be box movers who I can immediately pick up they have never used a product and often that leads to miss information being spewed out in their sales focus BS that greatly ignores the practical applications of deploying a product. I'm IT focused so maybe that is why I have this view.

I'm more of a buy, try, speak with the maker if the specifications are rubbish. Put on ebay if I don't like it or buy more if I do like it kind of person these days. Of course research stuff on forums like this as they are usually very truthful in their assessments. Not really possible with a product that has been released yet and I hate being the first/early user, but sometimes you need to get a jump on your competition. It's fair to say being an early adopter prepares you for fault finding down the track, but does suck up so much time.

I guess for Newtek selling technically complex products a dealer can make a big difference to those not into IT. My theory is if I can configure Linux box from a CLI quite proficiently, your product is broken if I can't figure it out after reading manuals and online resources :)
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#18 Posted : Friday, July 14, 2017 3:48:56 AM(UTC)
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kane wrote:
The WiFi on the Spark unit is 2 x 5db 2.4G/5G dual-band antennas IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n

I would highly recommend wireless-N and it should be a multi antenna unit. Look for a high performance WiFi unit, not your cheap $29 no name single antenna blue-light special. (Do people know what blue-light specials are anymore?)

Kane Peterson
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I was playing with NDI on the iPhone 6s and Ubiquiti AC equipment with blue light led ;-) but poor range and crop frames sometimes...
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#19 Posted : Friday, July 14, 2017 10:47:35 AM(UTC)
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rinaldo wrote:

I was playing with NDI on the iPhone 6s and Ubiquiti AC equipment with blue light led ;-) but poor range and crop frames sometimes...


I use Ubiquiti AC Pro's myself. While I'm pretty happy with them , I did recently note that Tim Higgins at Small Net Builder noted that their 2.4 GHz performance is lackluster.

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33084-ubiquiti-ac-pro-and-ac-lite-access-points-reviewed

Tim has a particularly rigorous approach to Wi-Fi reviews, which makes his opinion quite credible.
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#20 Posted : Friday, July 14, 2017 1:33:26 PM(UTC)
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mjgraves wrote:
rinaldo wrote:

I was playing with NDI on the iPhone 6s and Ubiquiti AC equipment with blue light led ;-) but poor range and crop frames sometimes...


I use Ubiquiti AC Pro's myself. While I'm pretty happy with them , I did recently note that Tim Higgins at Small Net Builder noted that their 2.4 GHz performance is lackluster.

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33084-ubiquiti-ac-pro-and-ac-lite-access-points-reviewed

Tim has a particularly rigorous approach to Wi-Fi reviews, which makes his opinion quite credible.



I've tried with Nanostation M5, Nanobeam M5 and the new Unifi Mesh AC with poor results too...
Hope for NDI 3.0
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