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sinc747 wrote:On next week's Streaming Idiots I am announcing a new NDI App that we have been developing called NDI Leash. Using this cutting edge tech/app I will connect my Jack Russell Terrier and he will be "NDI Compatible." Take a drink. I wonder if this is compatible with my two black labradors? They have routinely made their presence known in 590+ #VUC sessions (http://vuc.me)
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AElli wrote:Thanks Kane, my apologies if im appearing to give ndi a hard stance.. No apologies needed. I like it when people are pushing the technology. At the same time, I also want to share the thinking that goes into some of the products NewTek makes. I've had other people ask why not more than 4 channels in NewTek Connect Pro, but once you explain the reasoning, it makes sense. Kane Peterson NewTek
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Tom, I've vented on this same topic, but with reflection I suppose the cards are NDI compatible as they work natively with connect pro, which in itself is coveted by the NDI product name.
Having a product that relies on being plugged into a pc and running software had me, Like you, thinking no network ports, no NDI. After all the name is Network Device interface.
I'm sure we're all waiting for the HDMI-SDI to NDI boxes to appear, and for some, thats their understanding of NDI ie a box, SDI port one side and a rj45 the other, connecting the source makes it instantly available on the ip network. No other devices needed to achieve this. If thats the understanding of NDI then yes we've been dooped.
I guess it depends on your perspective of NDI. NDI the protocol, NDI the product or NDI the devices. If we look at SDI, some see it as a cable. Some see it as a protocol, whilst others see it to mean a compatible product.
For now, I guess We just have to read the marketing releases a little more thoroughly before we get too excited.
A.
Ps I hope, "no jack russels were harmed in the making of your app. :-)
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Quote:And no Jack's were harmed. :) So there is no UTP running up his ass? This is wireless? Also, this still gives no control at all over the Jack Russel? ;) I know some folks that would like remote control of their Jack. :D We had to laugh about the first NDI compatible Jack Russel, thank you for your humour. Will definitely watch your next show.
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Not sure if anyone's following this still but I've just read this from July this year: https://www.broadcastnow...-support/5120188.articleStating: 'Anyone who’s purchased the standard versions of the cameras (the AW-HE40 (pictured), AW-UE70, AW-HE130) can visit NewTek’s website in Autumn 2017 to upgrade and enable NDI capabilities for these camera models.'We are about to purchase two AW-HE40 for use with vMix initially with RTSP but I was wondering whether anyone can confirm what the above quote seems to suggest; that there's some sort of upgrade on the way to enable native NDI output on these cameras? Thanks.
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Clocksmith wrote:Not sure if anyone's following this still but I've just read this from July this year: https://www.broadcastnow...-support/5120188.articleStating: 'Anyone who’s purchased the standard versions of the cameras (the AW-HE40 (pictured), AW-UE70, AW-HE130) can visit NewTek’s website in Autumn 2017 to upgrade and enable NDI capabilities for these camera models.'We are about to purchase two AW-HE40 for use with vMix initially with RTSP but I was wondering whether anyone can confirm what the above quote seems to suggest; that there's some sort of upgrade on the way to enable native NDI output on these cameras? Thanks. I was with the Panasonic rep yesterday and we had beta NDI firmware on HE-40 and HE-70 cameras. I was controlling them from my IP Series system and they were running great. The Panasonic rep told me that mid October the firmware should be released for the HE-38, HE-40 and HE-70 model cameras, the HE-130 NDI firmware will not be until the end of the year. The NDI firmware for these units will be a paid upgrade. Kane Peterson NewTek
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kane wrote:Clocksmith wrote:Not sure if anyone's following this still but I've just read this from July this year: https://www.broadcastnow...-support/5120188.articleStating: 'Anyone who’s purchased the standard versions of the cameras (the AW-HE40 (pictured), AW-UE70, AW-HE130) can visit NewTek’s website in Autumn 2017 to upgrade and enable NDI capabilities for these camera models.'We are about to purchase two AW-HE40 for use with vMix initially with RTSP but I was wondering whether anyone can confirm what the above quote seems to suggest; that there's some sort of upgrade on the way to enable native NDI output on these cameras? Thanks. I was with the Panasonic rep yesterday and we had beta NDI firmware on HE-40 and HE-70 cameras. I was controlling them from my IP Series system and they were running great. The Panasonic rep told me that mid October the firmware should be released for the HE-38, HE-40 and HE-70 model cameras, the HE-130 NDI firmware will not be until the end of the year. The NDI firmware for these units will be a paid upgrade. Kane Peterson NewTek Fantastic, thanks Kane. This is really good news.
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kane wrote:I was with the Panasonic rep yesterday and we had beta NDI firmware on HE-40 and HE-70 cameras. I was controlling them from my IP Series system and they were running great.
The Panasonic rep told me that mid October the firmware should be released for the HE-38, HE-40 and HE-70 model cameras, the HE-130 NDI firmware will not be until the end of the year.
Thanks for the info. Sounds great. Can you tell anything about latency with NDI? My Spark has a latency of about 4 frames to the audio, when I bring it into vMix, my Panasonic UE70 is more than 15 frames behind the audio via h.264 stream input. Does this get better with NDI|HX?
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seb666 wrote:kane wrote:I was with the Panasonic rep yesterday and we had beta NDI firmware on HE-40 and HE-70 cameras. I was controlling them from my IP Series system and they were running great.
The Panasonic rep told me that mid October the firmware should be released for the HE-38, HE-40 and HE-70 model cameras, the HE-130 NDI firmware will not be until the end of the year.
Thanks for the info. Sounds great. Can you tell anything about latency with NDI? My Spark has a latency of about 4 frames to the audio, when I bring it into vMix, my Panasonic UE70 is more than 15 frames behind the audio via h.264 stream input. Does this get better with NDI|HX? The NDI|HX™ latency in cameras tends to be lower than that of the standalone Spark units. I believe that this is because the CODEC is inside the camera and can get the sensor data quicker than a Spark unit which has to wait for it to come out the SDI or HDMI connector of the device first. I can't say for sure on the Panasonic, but with the NewTek PTZ1 camera the latency is half of what I'm seeing with the Spark boxes.
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kane wrote:I was with the Panasonic rep yesterday and we had beta NDI firmware on HE-40 and HE-70 cameras. I was controlling them from my IP Series system and they were running great.
The Panasonic rep told me that mid October the firmware should be released for the HE-38, HE-40 and HE-70 model cameras, the HE-130 NDI firmware will not be until the end of the year.
Just being curious, because I'm waiting eagerly for it: any specific date for the release? And will I get informed via NewTek? :) Regards Seb
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I'm sure when it is available there will be lot of information, I'll probably post that information here myself as well. I'll see the Panasonic rep tomorrow, I can ask if there is any update, last I heard was middle of October, which is about a week away.
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Yes. And some models as my AW UE70 will get a firmware update to support NDI.
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I'm still told that NDI|HX™ for Panasonic cameras should be coming out mid-October.
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kane wrote:I'm still told that NDI|HX™ for Panasonic cameras should be coming out mid-October. Any news! Tomorrow is Holloween....the official end of the month!
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RobLambert wrote:kane wrote:I'm still told that NDI|HX™ for Panasonic cameras should be coming out mid-October. Any news! Tomorrow is Holloween....the official end of the month! From NewTek EMEA on Twitter: "Hello, no date confirmed as yet but it's likely to be November. Both @NewTekInc & Panasonic will announce the availability for the upgrades." https://twitter.com/newt...tatus/923848127358128128I'm also waiting with tension. I do have three NDI Spark Connect now and want to integrate my UE70 via NDI into this setting...
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Yep, looks like the date slipped. Just passing on what was I told before.
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Which version of NDI is currently been used in vMix? About a month ago I tried to connect Newteks PTZ camera to a vMix-laptop without any success. From which version does vMix support NDI v3 (NDI HX).
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markusnygard wrote:Which version of NDI is currently been used in vMix? About a month ago I tried to connect Newteks PTZ camera to a vMix-laptop without any success. From which version does vMix support NDI v3 (NDI HX). vMix definitely works with the NewTek PTZ Cam, as it also works with the Connect Spark devices and NDI HX. Please install the required NDI HX driver from NewTek. And please: open a new thread, if you have completely different issue.
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