logo

Live Production Software Forums


Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
BETech  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:52:11 AM(UTC)
BETech

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/18/2015(UTC)
Posts: 150
Location: Australia

Thanks: 81 times
Was thanked: 109 time(s) in 71 post(s)
As described, “PauseCountdown” does not just Pause the countdown, but also restarts the countdown if the shortcut is activated again. This may occur through error/misjudgement or keyboard shortcut key bounce.

Either way, “PauseCountdown” should pause the countdown always. Sports timing is mission critical. Single functions for each shortcut would be desirable.

“StartCountdown” already starts or restarts the countdown, and “StopCountdown” stops the clock and resets to the beginning as it should.
IceStream  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:09:37 AM(UTC)
IceStream

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/7/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,636
Man
Location: Canada

Thanks: 33 times
Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 475 post(s)
@ BETech

I like the functionality.
It is really a 'pause/unpause' toggle button (like a video play/pause button), which is the more desirable behavior from my perspective.
Perhaps a 're-labeling' is in order to avoid confusion.


Ice
thanks 1 user thanked IceStream for this useful post.
madness on 5/24/2016(UTC)
IceStream  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:41:40 AM(UTC)
IceStream

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/7/2012(UTC)
Posts: 2,636
Man
Location: Canada

Thanks: 33 times
Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 475 post(s)
@ BETech

I don't disagree with you and why I suggest a re-labeling might be in order.
(it took me a while to figure out the functions of each shortcut as it is, my point is, I like the toggle functionality, and given the current options, it's the only one that I use regularly)


Ice
Mathijs  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:49:33 AM(UTC)
Mathijs

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/24/2015(UTC)
Posts: 370
Location: Netherlands

Thanks: 16 times
Was thanked: 81 time(s) in 72 post(s)
While I see your point with having single functions, I think this is not really a bug as it seems intentionally designed like this.
When I walk around here pressing pause buttons on recorders and mediaplayers, almost all of them unpause when pressing pause when paused.

madness  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:01:45 PM(UTC)
madness

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/16/2013(UTC)
Posts: 406
Man
Location: Iowa

Thanks: 281 times
Was thanked: 32 time(s) in 29 post(s)
BETech wrote:
We consider that sort of functioning for the PAUSE shortcut as an error. It’s considered standard practice to have controls such as : PLAY, PLAY/PAUSE, PAUSE, STOP and so forth. Not PAUSE/UNPAUSE.

PAUSE should always be considered as a stand-alone function, or as an underlying function of PLAY. Given that the shortcut is defined as “PauseCountdown”, then it should perform the function as described.


On DJ Midi controllers, Play, and Pause are combined into a single button to operate as IceStream indicated. It's personally the way I would also expect it. Now, if it were a stop, I would expect it to freeze, and then a start to reset and restart it.
ask  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:47:36 AM(UTC)
ask

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/13/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,162
Australia
Location: Melbourne

Thanks: 220 times
Was thanked: 199 time(s) in 181 post(s)
Have to agree with the majority. Not a bug. Works as designed! I also don't have an issue with the logic of the controls. It also allows the shortcuts to work with the countdown clock. StartCountdown; PauseCountdown; Stop Countdown.
admin  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:50:13 AM(UTC)
admin

Rank: Administration

Groups: Administrators
Joined: 1/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 5,211
Man
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

Was thanked: 4300 time(s) in 1523 post(s)
Hi,

This is a naming bug actually as PauseCountdown works as a pause/resume toggle by design.
If the countdown is finished it will also restart the countdown.
(I.E it is designed to match the playpause button in vMix, if you press it when a video is finished it plays from the beginning again)

I would suggest a feature request for a new shortcut function with a different name that works exactly as you require as changing the functionality
of an existing function or even renaming it could mess up a lot of existing productions.
(Such is the challenge of backward compatibility!)

Regards,

Martin
vMix
Users browsing this topic
Guest (3)
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.