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FAndreas  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:10:21 PM(UTC)
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Hei guys,

I'm having video problems with vMix and I give my best to explain the following problem. Sorry, Iam no native English speaker... :):

Today i got the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle USB3. I read a lot about problems with the device, but I wanted to test it out for a Livestream Project.

So, the device works fine. No flickering or black frames on my MacBook Pro running Windows 7 x64 (new one, Mid 2014). I streamed about 2 hours with the following inputs:

- Audio Input (Behringer Audio Mixer, USB)
- Intensity Shuttle HDMI Sony Camcorder 720p 50p (USB3)
- Desktop Capture of a remote MacBook combined in a Multiview mix witch the Intensity Shuttle as a video overlay on the top right of the Desktop Capture.

All works fine until i add a additional source, the Sintel Movie 720p Trailer. Link
I think it must be 24p.

After that I get picture problems on preview and on live site, which are also transferred in the stream. I tried to take a snapshot, but Iam not fast enough. It looks like short flashing of Blackmagic capture input on top of the sintel movie, but only small in a corner and very short.

I don't understand why? When i close the Sintel Trailer input, the problem stops immediately.

CPU usage is about 40-70%
vMix render time is around 3-15, never over 20 or 25 ms.

Does anyone know the problem?

Thank you and Regards,
Andreas.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:37:20 PM(UTC)
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does your macbook pro has nvidia gpu ? :)
and if so do you have the latest drivers ?
h264 video is eating resources......

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FAndreas  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:44:12 AM(UTC)
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Hello PFBM,

thank you for your reply.

No, my 13" MacBook Pro has an Intel integrated GPU.
It's the smalest one with Iris Graphics. Drivers are from the Mac Bootcamp package, but I can check if there are newer drivers.

Mhh, you mean it could be a graphic performance related issue?
I thought i would see such performance problems when vMix render time goes up above 20 or 25 secs. But render time is fine. And CPU usage is always under 70%.

That is really a problem for me, because Iam not sure if i can count on vMix on that project. Like i said, no problems until i open and play that h264 video file. :(

Maybe an idea?

Andreas.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:57:35 AM(UTC)
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Hi Andreas,

Try the following:

In vMix Settings -> Performance set Video Renderer to EVR and restart.

Alternatively, upgrading to Windows 8.1 might help.

Regards,

Martin
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FAndreas  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:29:12 AM(UTC)
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Hello Martin,

thank you for your answer!

I'm just not in the office.
I'll test it later and let you know.

I read about EVR right now in the vMix documentation. So you think it is a performance problem with my GPU? For reliability you recommend VMR9 in the documentation. How could EVR cause stability problems?

How can Windows 8.1 help me in this situation?

In the past, I have decided consciously for Windows 7. I saw no advantage in Windows 8 in connection with Vmix. But Iam not a software developer... :)

Thank you again,
Andreas.
FAndreas  
#6 Posted : Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:46:52 AM(UTC)
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I did yesterday evening a lot of testing:

I upddated Intel Iris graphic drivers.
graphic problems.

I tried different video files like the nature.wmv windows sampelmovie.
No graphic problems here.

I tried this video file, Link.
No graphic problems here.

I tried the sintel 1080p trailer.
graphic problems.

Big Buck Bunny video file is in 25p, nature.wmv in 30p, only sintel trailers are in 24p. Thats the difference i found besides the different codecs.

I checked CPU utilization and GPU utilization with GPU-Z. GPU is around 20-30%.

I recorded a short video with my phone to show you the graphic issues.
Unfortunately the quality is not very good, but you can see the flicker/problems.

And finaly I set renderer to EVR.
With this setting I have absolutely no graphic problems in this test period.
But i noticed, that video file framerates in settings are different than with VMR9 (doubled?)

I would appreciate suggestions.

Regards,
Andreas.
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