+1 especially on the receive side for remote cameras sending SRT into vMix

Yeah. I’m thinking this would be used to make a stronger, more resilient connection, rather than just a faster connection. I guess this would be more like link aggregation or load balancing rather than bonding. The bonded language is what Haivision is using in these docs so I’m also using it. Would still like to see this natively supported in vMix.

Thanks for the Kiloview suggestion. Can it send a bonded signal directly to vMix or does it need to pass through a server, software or second device first?

+1 my streaming server software supports SRT bonding as of about 4 months ago (yet to try it). So ideally could add 2-3 internet connections to a PC and it could bond and keep a video up even if a mobile network goes down or becomes unreliable.

Adding Kiloviews while nice is not the way to go for me (I have 3 older models in the cupboard I don't use anymore from before Vmix supported SRT), I would rather not add another 67ms of latency and another hunk of junk to carry around to an event. If it can be done pure software.

I prefer have great laptop+vmix+planeticket+magewellcapture or NDI can do approach :) Hate to agree with Elon Musk, but the best part is no part.

Vmix are from Australia, they know that happens :) Remember Optus recently, but it's not just them. 3 Mobile phones, 3 Mobile Networks, Ethernet onsite (sometimes), SRT Bonding and you are probably unstoppable. Unless the laptop fails, then you are having a bad day anyway as you can't get Vmix running.

That's a use case mapped out and I know this will probably take time so I'll end up buy another Kiloview encoder I won't need (good products, just find it's a short life product in my workflows and gets quickly superseded by Vmix itself). Anyone want a KV-E2, used slightly in perfect condition.

what was your experience with speedify ? did it not improve the bandwidth enough or just not work properly ? it seems like a good budget option for anyone doing basic streaming on location ?

Before Starlink, I just couldn't do some locations at all. I hate lugging that dish around, not very practical. Looking forward to the smaller units :)

One of the more interesting I load balanced 3 starlink connections on residential plans. Was surprisingly effective. Not for just streaming the entire event.

It has redundant mode. I found that could help for sure, but still relies on the speedify server to be more reliable than what's inbetween. Those servers being used by many, might go offline due to a DDOS attack or something like that. Speedify then tends to transfer you to another server magically which is good. That process is not instant. I've also had to restart their software on occasion out of the blue. So the software itself can cause a problem. Solution "reboot" but that's not what you want to do.

Therefore I came to the conclusion between the client application and the unknown reliability factor of their servers (which tend to go well most of the time). I was better off just manually switching to another connection.

A simple but effective way, is putting 2 or more connections on the same subnet. Disabling DHCP on one router and changing your gateway IP manually if needed. Not very sophisticated, but that actually works.

Another way I often use a Ubiquiti Edge Router, with it's line balancing and failover (not bonding). It will detect a failed connection relatively quickly (it pings with a watchdog helper in the background) and that can of course be tuned via the command line if you want it to switch faster.

The Edge Router series are very cost effective (can do 1Gbit NAT/Routing in most models) and used to be easy to find in stock, getting a bit harder since the covid chip shortages but hopefully that comes back to normal. They are small multi port ethernet routers, a bit techy to configure, but are reasonably configurable. You just need 4G/5G that has ethernet ports.

The next level up is a true bonding router, but good luck getting a replacement on a weekend. So you need to buy 2. Kiloview has products might be the way to go there if you only need video redundancy. If you need more networking redundancy other choices are around.

I did just see the Kiloview P3 on their website. Looks interesting like the TVU type units that have been around for a while. Some nice specs on the P3, I'll find out how much it costs. Then really you probably need to buy 2 in the long run.

It's not a bad router, but only does one 4g connection at a time. So not that helpful for bonding.