vMix Forums
»
General
»
Feature Requests
»
Output "MiniMixes" as NDI
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/9/2020(UTC) Posts: 17 Location: Cologne Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 2 post(s)
|
The additional mixes in V26 are a great thing. It would open even more possibilities if there was an option to have them output as NDI. So I am thinking of a button in the settings->Output/NDI/SRT section, under "Additional NDI Outputs" reading "Mixes 2-15" that creates an NDI-stream of all mixes present in the show.
Alternativly: Add more outputs to the existing 4.
What would I use it for? To send "Aux" mixes to a multitude of Screens (via BirdDog Play NDI->HDMI converters) in a live production: downstagemonitors, creativ-screens on stage that make up the stage-set, foyer-displays etc.
Any one for this? Give it a +1. Cheers, Michael
|
2 users thanked mixmexmax for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/27/2018(UTC) Posts: 29 Location: Brazil Thanks: 349 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 6 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/9/2019(UTC) Posts: 77 Location: Stockholm Thanks: 20 times Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 4 post(s)
|
+1 as it might be a "work-around" to get more than the existing 4 outputs.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/23/2017(UTC) Posts: 1,212 Location: Germany Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 168 time(s) in 150 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 12/24/2021(UTC) Posts: 508 Location: athens Thanks: 123 times Was thanked: 71 time(s) in 67 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/4/2021(UTC) Posts: 308 Thanks: 8 times Was thanked: 40 time(s) in 35 post(s)
|
+1 I would, 100%, use this as described. I currently have a convoluted workaround to get an additional, non-output video-only feed out by using OBS screen capturing my vMix full screen window. This would solve that handily. But the key words there are "video only". If you look at a Mix input, you'll notice that it doesn't have any audio meters. That's because the Mix inputs don't process audio--the audio is handled within the inputs and buses themselves. Mix inputs are completely visual. That also means that an NDI out on the Mix input would also be completely visual. For many purposes, like mine or yours, that won't matter, which is why I 100% support this as a way to get visual only NDI monitor feeds of multiviews and other visual only elements not covered by the existing NDI outs when the Outputs are already in use elsewhere. But I do think there will be a hesitancy to implement this, because of a perception that other users will expect to get the sync'ed and embedded audio, without realizing the limitation of this offering. But I think if they titled it something like Quote:Mix Inputs (Visual only--no audio) expectations would be tempered, but I also get the feeling it's unlikely we'll see this until we get past the limitations preventing a 5th Output. (And, please, nobody say "You can just select an audio bus like you can with the 4 Outputs", because, at that point, even if this isn't running up against the timing/sync issues preventing a 5th Output, that definitely would.)
|
1 user thanked WaltG12 for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/28/2017(UTC) Posts: 69 Location: Haapsalu, Estonia Thanks: 72 times Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/23/2020(UTC) Posts: 19
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/11/2018(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: Michindoh Thanks: 11 times
|
+1. Would be fantastic to have on-set screens coordinating with the main output.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/1/2020(UTC) Posts: 88 Location: Earth Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 16 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Newbie
Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/9/2020(UTC) Posts: 9 Location: Sydney
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/3/2018(UTC) Posts: 184
Thanks: 86 times Was thanked: 7 time(s) in 7 post(s)
|
+1 Using the Mixes to toggle between multiple vMix Caller or Zoom remote guests to project onto monitors at a hybrid event, via Birddog Play, would be another use case.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Administration
Groups: Administrators
Joined: 1/13/2010(UTC) Posts: 5,208 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Was thanked: 4288 time(s) in 1520 post(s)
|
Hi All,
Unfortunately modern GPUs are still quite slow when it comes to downloading video back from the GPU, and this is what is needed for the vMix outputs and also to convert Mix inputs into NDI. (as all processing of outputs is done on the GPU).
This is why there are only 4 outputs in vMix, and even then they require a very fast GPU to avoid high render times when all in use.
If GPUs ever do optimise downloads a lot better, then rather than a Mix input to NDI, we would likely add the option to add as many outputs as you need and link them to any inputs you like. Much like how you can "Add Input" today.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Martin vMix
|
7 users thanked admin for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/23/2020(UTC) Posts: 170 Location: Wichita Thanks: 10 times Was thanked: 24 time(s) in 20 post(s)
|
vMix is less expensive than a computer capable of running it well. If you have a need for more outputs it's probably a lot better to get another computer capable of running vMix and using it to create the additional mixes you need with an additional licensed copy of vMix.
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 9/10/2015(UTC) Posts: 133 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 35 time(s) in 32 post(s)
|
Originally Posted by: admin Hi All,
Unfortunately modern GPUs are still quite slow when it comes to downloading video back from the GPU, and this is what is needed for the vMix outputs and also to convert Mix inputs into NDI. (as all processing of outputs is done on the GPU).
This is why there are only 4 outputs in vMix, and even then they require a very fast GPU to avoid high render times when all in use.
If GPUs ever do optimise downloads a lot better, then rather than a Mix input to NDI, we would likely add the option to add as many outputs as you need and link them to any inputs you like. Much like how you can "Add Input" today.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Martin vMix This makes sense for NDI or External outputs but does the same thing apply for Fullscreen outputs?
|
1 user thanked paco3346 for this useful post.
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/17/2023(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: Denver Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
|
Does ResizeableBAR help this at all? I know it helps with loading data INTO the GPU... Originally Posted by: admin Unfortunately modern GPUs are still quite slow when it comes to downloading video back from the GPU, and this is what is needed for the vMix outputs and also to convert Mix inputs into NDI. (as all processing of outputs is done on the GPU).
|
|
|
|
Rank: Newbie
Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/6/2023(UTC) Posts: 5 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/9/2014(UTC) Posts: 105 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Thanks: 22 times Was thanked: 16 time(s) in 15 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 8/26/2020(UTC) Posts: 17 Location: Velsen / The Netherlands Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
|
|
|
|
|
vMix Forums
»
General
»
Feature Requests
»
Output "MiniMixes" as NDI
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
Important Information:
The vMix Forums uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies.
More Details
Close