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mixmexmax  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2023 5:56:07 PM(UTC)
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The additional mixes in V26 are a great thing. It would open even more possibilities if there was an option to have them output as NDI. So I am thinking of a button in the settings->Output/NDI/SRT section, under "Additional NDI Outputs" reading "Mixes 2-15" that creates an NDI-stream of all mixes present in the show.

Alternativly: Add more outputs to the existing 4.

What would I use it for? To send "Aux" mixes to a multitude of Screens (via BirdDog Play NDI->HDMI converters) in a live production: downstagemonitors, creativ-screens on stage that make up the stage-set, foyer-displays etc.

Any one for this? Give it a +1.
Cheers, Michael
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2023 8:37:15 PM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2023 9:58:20 PM(UTC)
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+1 as it might be a "work-around" to get more than the existing 4 outputs.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:03:40 AM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2023 7:16:56 AM(UTC)
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#6 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2023 6:01:27 PM(UTC)
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I would, 100%, use this as described. I currently have a convoluted workaround to get an additional, non-output video-only feed out by using OBS screen capturing my vMix full screen window.

This would solve that handily.

But the key words there are "video only".

If you look at a Mix input, you'll notice that it doesn't have any audio meters. That's because the Mix inputs don't process audio--the audio is handled within the inputs and buses themselves. Mix inputs are completely visual.

That also means that an NDI out on the Mix input would also be completely visual.

For many purposes, like mine or yours, that won't matter, which is why I 100% support this as a way to get visual only NDI monitor feeds of multiviews and other visual only elements not covered by the existing NDI outs when the Outputs are already in use elsewhere.

But I do think there will be a hesitancy to implement this, because of a perception that other users will expect to get the sync'ed and embedded audio, without realizing the limitation of this offering.

But I think if they titled it something like

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Mix Inputs (Visual only--no audio)


expectations would be tempered, but I also get the feeling it's unlikely we'll see this until we get past the limitations preventing a 5th Output.

(And, please, nobody say "You can just select an audio bus like you can with the 4 Outputs", because, at that point, even if this isn't running up against the timing/sync issues preventing a 5th Output, that definitely would.)
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#7 Posted : Sunday, March 5, 2023 7:40:18 AM(UTC)
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#8 Posted : Sunday, March 5, 2023 8:38:25 PM(UTC)
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:15:57 AM(UTC)
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+1. Would be fantastic to have on-set screens coordinating with the main output.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:35:42 AM(UTC)
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+1 would use so often!!!
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#12 Posted : Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:40:33 PM(UTC)
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+1 Using the Mixes to toggle between multiple vMix Caller or Zoom remote guests to project onto monitors at a hybrid event, via Birddog Play, would be another use case.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, March 18, 2023 1:00:58 PM(UTC)
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Hi All,

Unfortunately modern GPUs are still quite slow when it comes to downloading video back from the GPU, and this is what is needed for the vMix outputs and also to
convert Mix inputs into NDI. (as all processing of outputs is done on the GPU).

This is why there are only 4 outputs in vMix, and even then they require a very fast GPU to avoid high render times when all in use.

If GPUs ever do optimise downloads a lot better, then rather than a Mix input to NDI, we would likely add the option to add as many outputs as you need and link them to any inputs you like. Much like how you can "Add Input" today.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Martin
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#14 Posted : Sunday, March 19, 2023 10:53:23 AM(UTC)
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vMix is less expensive than a computer capable of running it well. If you have a need for more outputs it's probably a lot better to get another computer capable of running vMix and using it to create the additional mixes you need with an additional licensed copy of vMix.
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#15 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2023 1:46:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: admin Go to Quoted Post
Hi All,

Unfortunately modern GPUs are still quite slow when it comes to downloading video back from the GPU, and this is what is needed for the vMix outputs and also to
convert Mix inputs into NDI. (as all processing of outputs is done on the GPU).

This is why there are only 4 outputs in vMix, and even then they require a very fast GPU to avoid high render times when all in use.

If GPUs ever do optimise downloads a lot better, then rather than a Mix input to NDI, we would likely add the option to add as many outputs as you need and link them to any inputs you like. Much like how you can "Add Input" today.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Martin
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This makes sense for NDI or External outputs but does the same thing apply for Fullscreen outputs?
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:49:57 AM(UTC)
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Does ResizeableBAR help this at all? I know it helps with loading data INTO the GPU...


Originally Posted by: admin Go to Quoted Post

Unfortunately modern GPUs are still quite slow when it comes to downloading video back from the GPU, and this is what is needed for the vMix outputs and also to
convert Mix inputs into NDI. (as all processing of outputs is done on the GPU).


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#17 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:23:29 AM(UTC)
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#18 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2023 8:30:58 PM(UTC)
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+1 and a little bump :)
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#19 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2023 10:16:38 PM(UTC)
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