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thomaschang99@icloud.com  
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:51:18 AM(UTC)
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I have a digital mixer: Yamaha TF3
I connect USB output to my PC running Windows 10.
From vMIX, there's two of the 34 channels are seen from vMIX.
How would I hear all the channels?
Thanks,
Thomas
LouKohley  
#2 Posted : Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:30:30 AM(UTC)
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You need to assign the usb rec outs to be the stereo master output. Then you will hear the mix output of the TF3.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:13:52 AM(UTC)
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Lou,
Thanks for the quick reply! Much appreciated. Obviously I am a newbie here, so your help is greatly appreciated.
I'll try the usb recording output config that you suggested on TF3.

In vMix, when adding a new audio source, I am seeing a long list of duplicate entries under "Yamaha Steinberge ASIO" category, as seen in the attached picture.

Which I should I select for the Main Mix output from TF3?


Thomas
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LouKohley  
#4 Posted : Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:17:49 AM(UTC)
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Sorry I should have been more detailed.

The TF has a 32x32 interface. That's 32in and 32 out. Each one of those channels is assignable on the mixer itself. You need to assign the usb card out 1 and 2 to be stereo left and right respectively (sorry I'm not 100% where that is. I haven't used the TF I'm familiar with the rest of the Yamaha range)

If you need more help let me know and we can connect. Give it a try. Good luck.

LOU
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#5 Posted : Monday, June 8, 2020 4:21:35 PM(UTC)
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Thomas and I spent some time sorting this out.

Here are some key details for those searching the forum in the FUTURE...Future...future (this is an echo)

The tf consoles have a 34x34 interface. The first 32 are direct outs of the 32 input channels. You can only assign the last two channels.

The confusing part was how the asio driver showed up in vmix. In the photo above it shows 17 pairs and then 34 single channels.
The pairs are stereo odd/even. So 1/2, 3/4, etc. The last pair is the assignable one. 33/34.
Once you have this interface in vmix you need to change what is going into vmix. This is controlled on the TF mixer.
Tap the cassette icon at the top of the touch screen on the TF.
Then Input/output.
Then you assign one of your outputs to the usb 33/34. This is usually the Stereo L/R.

Now anything going out to the house PA will also go into vmix for streaming.

Additionally if you want to return audio from vmix you can do this over the usb as well.
However the routing gets a little more complex.
You need to create a mix-minus. This can be accomplished using a bus in vmix or on the TF mixer.

To get audio from vmix back to the TF, assign the master output of vmix (under settings, upper right corner). Select the Yamaha driver under audio outputs. Then pick where you want the audio to show up on the TF mixer. We chose 23/24.

To assign it on the TF, select the channel (23/24), under the input patch for the channel you get 3 choices. Input, usb, and slot. Input is the xlr on the console itself, usb is coming back from the computer (this is the one we want), the slot is for any expansion card you have in your mixer.

Hope this helps anyone searching for this solution.

LOU
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22:06 AM(UTC)
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@LouKohley

I can't thank you enough for posting your solution and explanation. It's beyond frustrating that Yamaha documentation does not explain the Steinberg Driver functionality AT ALL.

On my TF5, I assigned Aux7 to Record Channel 33 and Aux 8 to Record Channel 34. Then in the vMix I chose the 17th item from the list. (Wow that's intuitive)
I still need to fine tune my recording mix, but it's working!!



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#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:45:59 AM(UTC)
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I would not want to route the master of TF 33/34 to vMix. Rout a TF bus to vMix so you can easily create a mix minus for stuff that needs to be send to vMix. Same applies in vMix. Don't send the master to TF. Assign a Bus to send to TF. You need the master for record and streaming and may need to add videos, calls and the like. Havin a dedicated bus for the TF is much easier to handle as well.
This way you can have both really as masters. The TF for the room PA the vMix for recording/streaming.
I have made some videos for the Behringer XR18 but the same logic applies here as well.
https://video.mavik.de/
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