Could You please help me ?
- I'd like to do streaming from three places in about 180m high building. We have one stage on last floor, second somewhere between (15 floor) and main stage on ground floor.
My plan is to use vMix on ground floor of course. But what above? Do I need another two computers with vMix? What is mean that "BlackMagic cards are compactible with NDI" - could I connect camera to BM card in computer on last floor (without vMix) and will be seen on vMix down? Or I need another vMix soft there. I also have Teradek Cube which is also "compactible with NDI" how to use it there?
What on 15 floor ? Another one ? Do I need there Gb powered switch ? What cables do I need? Cat.5 or 6 is needed. How long they could be?

Best regards, TadeusZ

@ Zetor1980

I guess the first question is:
Is there an existing NETWORK in the building?


Ice

Good question , I forgot to write this. Yes there is but I prefer to arrange my own cables in staircase. They have some contraindications due to the Security.

I think one switch and one router would suffice :

furthest camera/pc location cat6 to switch close to halfway location and connected to camera/pc
from halfway switch to router close to base location connected to router

As usual there are several options based on what one has, situations , goals etc

Not assuming anything , pas du tout , but just giving a possible schematic scenarios
Renting is always possible, outsourcing is too and many of us like to keep it a bit more down to earth.
If an extra switch is needed, they are very cheap.

for what it is worth , I loose distance hanging cables in trees ;-) but hey it works with wireless remotely operating the cameras, its all about being comfortable too for hours on end lol

before NDI several remote stations , each own recording and streaming , NDI makes it possible to connect them all cheaply with a master station for whatever what wants to do with it.

its an extra option but a very nice one to embrace

Now if a BirdDog or similar comes out ....

No offense Doggy. My point was not to criticize your suggestion, which I totally agree with, but rather to say that sometimes when we work in buildings, the topography of location prevents us from going with the shortest path. I often need to use 50m (or longer) cables to go to the next room which is however only 20 m away as the crow flies...

Furthermore, fiber might look like a spaceship technology, but it is nowadays very cheap and provides a wonderful service for signal transport. As an example, a pack of fiber extenders costs roughly $350 and allows a distance of 10km. It's the same price as a couple of "simple" HDMI2SDI converters... This can be rented with $50 a day, aswell as a 500m fiber cable drum...
http://www.markertek.com...sdi-over-fiber-extenders

If I had to quote this project and with my feet well grounded, I'd go fiber instead of NDI for economical aswell as technical and practical reasons.

NDI:
- 2 laptops with capture cards: roughly $1500
- 2 switches and 200m CAT6: roughly $250 minimum (with very cheap switches)

Fiber:
- 2x2 Extenders: $700 (buy) or $100/150 (rental)
- 2 fiber drums : roughly $150 (rental)

In the end obviously, SDI would be the easiest and cheapest solution but even with 230m drum, I'm not sure it'd be enough for the distance from last floor to ground.

My 2 cts
Guillaume

NDI is fabulous !!!!!!

I don't want you to misunderstand our discussion... Maybe it is not the ideal tech for THIS project, but NDI is the future of AV prod, no doubt...

NDI allow to transport video signals on IP networks. Thus it prevents from using a lot of cables and facilitates the use of signals between computers. Check Newtek website for more details http://www.newtek.com/ndi/

We, vMix users, are intensively using NDI in our productions for many purposes and workflows types.
As it is still a very recent technology (10 months), there are still some things which are difficult to do with NDI due to the lack of equipments. The best example (what you need) is the lack of a lightweight SDI2NDI or HDMI2NDI converter. So at the moment we need to use computers with capture card to do this. Hence the price...

BMD cards are NDI compatible as any other capture boards, simply because they allow to input camera signal into computers in order to use NDI... Same as Teradek: you can send the signal to Teradek Cube with an ethernet cable instead of a SDI/HDMI cable...

Hope this helps...
Guillaume

Hi Kane,

Yes I would love to use NewTek NDI Connect but my processer wont let me, this is what I get 'NDI Connect requires a CPU with AVX instructions'.

I have an old Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz processer and it does not use AVX instructions.

So can you tell me why these NDI apps need to use a CPU with AVX instructions as vMix doesn't need this.