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Hello,
Martin, this seems to be important as we run into problems a few times.
The discussion is about the vMix behavior when some devices ( audio devices, video monitors) that are saved in a preset are disconnected (in fact, when they are not connected at the vMix start).
Probably will be much safer to have the vMix fall-back to none when a device is disconnected and not to "default" as it seems to be now.
For example, we use an external video assist (hdmi) which is used as the destination for Bus B (sound).
When the video assist is disconnected the sound for Bus B is routed to the default audio device . In our case that means we hear same audio 2 times ( with echo) .
Also, there are similar problems with surprising behavior for Shortcuts and Triggers . In our tests, when a module is removed, the shorcut falls-back to another available module and not none.
Thank you very much,
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Exactly right.. Sorry.. I missed the message then .. richardgatarski wrote:1. When vMix loads a preset where audio devices defined in the preset are missing, the Audio outputs are set to default. While this is good, I firmly believe a warning "Missing audio device" is necessary. When mounting all gear at a venue one might (by mistake) start vMix before all cables, here USB, are connected. A missing camera is easy to detect, a complex audio setup is very difficult to problem solve...
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Hi Clement,
just to add to this: I also save a preset without the inputs, etc. just saving the layout, multiviews, overlays and so... then after opening i reload the inputs.
i found that if something has changed, is reconnected or p.e. input in a different usb port or something, this could lead to problems in the recording. Adding the new input is easy but this way you are also sure the connections match.
i then save the preset under a live name of that same constitution. when i have to restart without reconnecting anything the preset will work just fine.
i have found that small changes could lead to some kind op problem during recordings, and because its a software mixer changes could be invoked from all kinds of levels, being a simple windows update or an updated driver etc etc.
i just spend the whole morning getting all my bm input cards (4 cards) up and running again after updating windows, vmix 13 and the bm drivers...
good luck stefan
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I've put the requested output audio device functionality into the early vMix 14 alpha I am working on.
It works as follows:
Output or Headphones device unplugged: Will remain in list but will send audio to default device until output is plugged in and vMix restarted. A or B device unplugged: Will remain in list but will not send any audio at all until device is plugged in and vMix restarted.
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admin wrote:I've put the requested output audio device functionality into the early vMix 14 alpha I am working on.
It works as follows:
Output or Headphones device unplugged: Will remain in list but will send audio to default device until output is plugged in and vMix restarted. A or B device unplugged: Will remain in list but will not send any audio at all until device is plugged in and vMix restarted.
Thanks, sounds reasonable. How about a warning message of any device is unplugged?
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How about the Recording audio device? Other input devices become "offline" if non existing at start. Maybe some kind of similar actions as above is needed for the Recording device.
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