logo

Live Production Software Forums


Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
admin  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:06:47 PM(UTC)
admin

Rank: Administration

Groups: Administrators
Joined: 1/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4,747
Man
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

Was thanked: 3245 time(s) in 1266 post(s)
UPDATE: Issue is now resolved as of 461.19. See below for driver update:
https://www.nvidia.com/e.../drivers/results/168778/


Hi All,

In recent testing we have come across a significant performance issue in vMix with GeForce driver versions greater than 452.06.
The symptoms are much higher GPU usage % (as shown in Windows Task Manager) when using multiple video sources such as cameras, NDI and video clips.

Installing 452.06 or lower version drivers instead will not have this issue.
See below to download the most recent driver without any issues:
https://www.nvidia.com/e.../drivers/results/162983/

Until we can investigate further, we would advise anyone on newer driver versions to roll back where possible.

Regards,

Martin
vMix

P.S For those curious, the issue relates to a performance problem converting between YUV video formats. 8x HD cameras can be converted in under 10% GPU usage
on a 2060, while with the latest drivers this jumps up to 65% or more!
thanks 20 users thanked admin for this useful post.
DWAM on 11/26/2020(UTC), stigaard on 11/26/2020(UTC), Peter1000 on 11/26/2020(UTC), doggy on 11/26/2020(UTC), rudyengels on 11/26/2020(UTC), Babbit on 11/27/2020(UTC), raugert on 11/27/2020(UTC), mgrayeb on 11/27/2020(UTC), MichaelOlsen on 11/29/2020(UTC), mavik on 12/2/2020(UTC), sinc747 on 12/2/2020(UTC), Follo on 12/3/2020(UTC), clafarge on 12/3/2020(UTC), dcoplin on 12/3/2020(UTC), Peter Berglund on 12/4/2020(UTC), eduardocfs on 12/4/2020(UTC), Reinaldo on 12/10/2020(UTC), vvcvvc on 12/26/2020(UTC), Metroplex Mobile Studio on 1/22/2021(UTC), klikwawan on 4/5/2021(UTC)
DWAM  
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 6:22:06 PM(UTC)
DWAM

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/20/2014(UTC)
Posts: 2,716
Man
France
Location: Bordeaux, France

Thanks: 243 times
Was thanked: 771 time(s) in 583 post(s)
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Peter1000  
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 6:38:39 PM(UTC)
Peter1000

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/25/2019(UTC)
Posts: 202
Switzerland

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 43 time(s) in 34 post(s)
Thanks, my project uses now only 10% GPU instead of 44%. (downgraded to Driver version 452.06)
DWAM  
#4 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2020 12:53:32 AM(UTC)
DWAM

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/20/2014(UTC)
Posts: 2,716
Man
France
Location: Bordeaux, France

Thanks: 243 times
Was thanked: 771 time(s) in 583 post(s)
If you are looking for older driver versions, here's the page to use :

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx

@Martin
Do you know whether Quadros are impacted too ?
samirbridi  
#5 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2020 10:54:37 PM(UTC)
samirbridi

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/27/2020(UTC)
Posts: 12
Brazil
Location: Porto Alegre

Thanks: 1 times
Hi,

I have driver version 457.30 and at the moment I did not feel a high consumption of the GPU. My card model is the GTX 1660Ti 6GB.
I will take care of this fact, as it is always important, especially a high consumption as mentioned.
wong kim Chuen  
#6 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2020 1:54:24 AM(UTC)
wong kim Chuen

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/24/2020(UTC)
Posts: 1
Malaysia
Location: Klang

I have problem with my Nvidia RTX 3080 with Vimix,the GPU utilise 100% when playing 3 x 4K video. Is it the driver issue to?
Because I can't find 452.06 version driver for RTX 3080. only 457.30 version available.
I tried with RTX 3090 too, facing same issue too.

Im Using
intel I10850K
Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Extreme
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200 x 4
XPG 60G SSD
Zotac RTX 3080 GPU
DWAM  
#7 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:02:41 AM(UTC)
DWAM

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/20/2014(UTC)
Posts: 2,716
Man
France
Location: Bordeaux, France

Thanks: 243 times
Was thanked: 771 time(s) in 583 post(s)
Quote:
I can't find 452.06 version driver for RTX 3080

452.06 is from last august I think
RTX3xxx were not even released at that time.
Streamverse.tv  
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2020 6:40:35 AM(UTC)
Streamverse.tv

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/2/2016(UTC)
Posts: 34
Austria
Location: Austria

Thanks: 9 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
Originally Posted by: DWAM Go to Quoted Post
@Martin
Do you know whether Quadros are impacted too ?


Is there an easy way to check if Quadro Cards are affected?
Peter1000  
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2020 7:10:49 AM(UTC)
Peter1000

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/25/2019(UTC)
Posts: 202
Switzerland

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 43 time(s) in 34 post(s)
yes, i had to downgrade the drivers for quadro rtx 4000 and rtx 5000 to 452.06.
see my post above
mkrigsman  
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2020 1:59:40 PM(UTC)
mkrigsman

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/13/2017(UTC)
Posts: 42

Thanks: 2 times
Thanks for the heads up. Please do let us know when Nvidia fixes the problem.
Simsyuk  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:52:51 PM(UTC)
Simsyuk

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 8/16/2019(UTC)
Posts: 206
United Kingdom

Thanks: 40 times
Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 9 post(s)
I have version 456.38 using a GeForce GTX 1660Ti (6GB) and the GPU stays around 4%, the CPU (i7-10700k) however always gives me errors after an hour when using Skype (one user).

The only thing I get confused about is which driver to use, Studio or the Gamer lol.
clafarge  
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 3, 2020 6:13:22 AM(UTC)
clafarge

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/27/2017(UTC)
Posts: 73
Man
United States
Location: Greater St Louis Area

Thanks: 63 times
Was thanked: 19 time(s) in 13 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Simsyuk Go to Quoted Post
I have version 456.38 using a GeForce GTX 1660Ti (6GB) and the GPU stays around 4%, the CPU (i7-10700k) however always gives me errors after an hour when using Skype (one user).

The only thing I get confused about is which driver to use, Studio or the Gamer lol.


Quoth NVidia:
Quote:
If you are a gamer who prioritizes day of launch support for the latest games, patches, and DLCs, choose Game Ready Drivers. If you are a content creator who prioritizes reliability for creative workflows including video editing, animation, photography, graphic design, and livestreaming, choose Studio Drivers. Do a little bit of both? No worries, either can support running the best games and creative apps.

I'd say Studio, but I don't think the machine will explode either way ;).

I JUST got a 3080, and am in the position of having no fall-back driver of lesser version, and the NVidia site is not helpful.

I hope this issue is short-lived.

Best,

Chad
arkavproduction  
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 3, 2020 3:56:37 PM(UTC)
arkavproduction

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 12/3/2020(UTC)
Posts: 1
Man
Singapore
Location: Singapore

hi all. first post in the forum!

I noted there is a new Nvidia Studio Driver 457.30 released on 12 Nov. does this fix the performance issue, or is rolling back to 452.06 a better bet?
srbh41413  
#14 Posted : Sunday, December 6, 2020 1:13:33 AM(UTC)
srbh41413

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/24/2020(UTC)
Posts: 18
Japan
Location: Tokyo

Thanks: 8 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
When I tried to install the 452.06, the installer would not proceed. Said 'system not compatible with this version of Windows'.

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 20H2
Installed on ‎2020-‎10-‎05
OS build 19042.662
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0

RTX 2070 Super GPU
But, the issue does seem to be affecting the system as there is red warning of "GPU overloaded" when vMix is doing nothing. Just after startup to default workspace.
AlanZ  
#15 Posted : Saturday, December 12, 2020 3:41:53 AM(UTC)
AlanZ

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/11/2015(UTC)
Posts: 327
Location: NJ

Thanks: 7 times
Was thanked: 42 time(s) in 35 post(s)
I just downloaded 460.79 and it may very well have fixed the resource problem.
I am no longer getting GPU warnings where I was getting them with recent builds.
I'll do a little more testing on the RTX 2070 notebook, but the first impressions are encouraging.
thanks 2 users thanked AlanZ for this useful post.
DWAM on 12/12/2020(UTC), stigaard on 12/12/2020(UTC)
admin  
#16 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2020 3:10:00 PM(UTC)
admin

Rank: Administration

Groups: Administrators
Joined: 1/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4,747
Man
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

Was thanked: 3245 time(s) in 1266 post(s)
Unfortunately the issue still exists in 460.79.

To accurately test for it, run at least 4 "Sample Input" Camera inputs in vMix.
Then check the GPU usage in Task Manager or GPU-Z.

Then roll back the driver and compare.

The GPU usage will be at least double vs the 452.06 driver.
Here is a direct link to the driver if needed:
https://www.nvidia.com/e.../drivers/results/162983/
admin  
#17 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2020 11:30:18 PM(UTC)
admin

Rank: Administration

Groups: Administrators
Joined: 1/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4,747
Man
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

Was thanked: 3245 time(s) in 1266 post(s)
Hi,

You will need to post again, as we had to delete that thread due to being posted in the wrong place.
Please only post on topic, a discussion about GPU performance in general is not appropriate in a 3000 series thread ;)

Regards,

Martin
vMix
elvis55  
#18 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2020 11:52:41 PM(UTC)
elvis55

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/17/2017(UTC)
Posts: 359
Switzerland
Location: Luzern - Schweiz

Thanks: 55 times
Was thanked: 49 time(s) in 44 post(s)
Quote:

You will need to post again, as we had to delete that thread due to being posted in the wrong place.
Please only post on topic, a discussion about GPU performance in general is not appropriate in a 3000 series thread ;)


Sorry!

I also did a test once. I have done many things in vMix through Blackmagic ATEM Television Studio.
The ATEM has a smaller delay than with the PC when sending to a live monitor.
Since I still have an older graphics card on my PC, I didn't want to overload it.
My graphics card is currently still one: nvidia GTX 950 driver version 451.48

I've followed the discussions in the forum. Now I wanted to know where the limits are on my map.

6 Kameras Canon Legria HF G25 mit 1080i50
2x SRT
1x USB Cam

2x to HDMI - SDI Converter to Blackmagic DeckLink Duo SDI
2x HDMI to Blackmagic Design DeckLink Mini HDMI/SDI
1x HDMI to Blackmagic Intensity Pro HDMI
1x HDMI to Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle
1x USB Cam Microsoft
2x SRT mit 2 Smartphone
Total 9 entrances

In Task-Manager
GPU 15 - 20%
CPU 21 - 30%

In vMix
Render Times 5 - 10ms
GPU Mem 46%
CPU vMix ca. 19%

Is there something wrong with my card?
nvidia3.jpg (401kb) downloaded 6 time(s). nvidia2.jpg (320kb) downloaded 5 time(s). nvidia4.jpg (145kb) downloaded 6 time(s). nvidia1.jpg (326kb) downloaded 8 time(s).
niemi  
#19 Posted : Monday, December 21, 2020 8:43:22 PM(UTC)
niemi

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/16/2017(UTC)
Posts: 166
Location: Denmark

Thanks: 27 times
Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 14 post(s)
So which Quadro driver versions are we recommending?

And which ones have proved problematic?
thanks 1 user thanked niemi for this useful post.
vvcvvc on 12/26/2020(UTC)
stephencousins  
#20 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2021 6:50:10 AM(UTC)
stephencousins

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/24/2018(UTC)
Posts: 16
Location: Worthing

One problem with rolling back the drivers to this older 452 version is that it is not compatible with Nvidia Broadcast, which I use for background noise cancelling.

For me the issue with the newer drivers is intermittent. So most of the time the drivers and vMix work as expected. However, I would say once every couple of weeks I will turn the computer on, load vMix and see the render times are huge. All I have to do is close vMix and reinstall the latest driver from scratch. It doesn't take too long, but I have to remember to check. I have started streaming a few times and then realised that the render times are crazy and I have to restart the stream.

So I either put up with that, or I put up with extra background noise in my streams.
Users browsing this topic
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.