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PIWright  
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 1:04:23 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,

We are increasingly working with a separate sound mixer operator and want to work in a more traditional TV gallery way where the sound op can tweak the sound separate to the main programme which is being run by the director. We have been using the Akai APC 40 as a midi controller but it would be really useful for them to be able to tweak sound, add VST, check levels etc without bothering the main screen and the director. Is there a way to run a separate Vmix instance to do this? Also very interested in how the Xtouch by Behringer would perform in a vmix set up but so far have found little information on this.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Peter
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#2 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 2:14:34 AM(UTC)
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Have a look at the vMix panel Builder app. https://forums.vmix.com/...in-Android-tablets-iPads

It has faders and VU meters and can adjust any parameters available in the vMix API. It can also run on multiple platforms to control your vMix instance. Many folks are using the app for this purpose.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:35:42 AM(UTC)
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Hi raugert,

That looks good thanks for the tip. I will certainly take a look. We have been using an Akai APC40 up til now as I like the physical faders but it would be useful to be able to get under the Vmix bonnet from time to time without disturbing the director's PC to maybe tweak the EQ or compressor or adjust gain which I'm not sure the panel builder would help with.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:03:24 AM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:30:21 PM(UTC)
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Thanks elvis55 - I see you have looked a this issue but there are no real solutions as yet. I noticed on You Tube that VM panel builder can be used creatively for IFB and pre-fade listen of contributors using NDI audio. Looks very useful.



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#6 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:37:02 PM(UTC)
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I developped a remote controller for vMix audio using VMPB... It simply takes advantage of the vMix API... And my audio guy can do everything from a remote laptop.

DWAM-Virtual-Mixer.jpg (1,733kb) downloaded 13 time(s).
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#7 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2020 3:50:14 AM(UTC)
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Thanks DWAM that’s superb. I saw your work and videos on setting up the Akai APC mini which I also have and it really helped get me get started with setting up Vmix so thank you very much for sharing that too.

Is the template for the above something you would pass on? Does it adjust gain as well - I can’t see it on the picture but being able to set up Vmix calls without bothering the director would be very useful.

Cheers,

Peter
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#8 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2020 7:12:23 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Peter
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Does it adjust gain as well

Nope. Gain must be adjusted on the audio interface for XLR inputs or on the guests side for vMixCalls
However the use of VST3 plugins helps a lot for volume control for the output
I recommend Waves plugins, they're fantastic.
Use this link to get a 10% discount on all purchase at waves.com : https://www.waves.com/r/fgcn5q
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Is the template for the above something you would pass on?

I have been thinking about it, but it's really not as easy as it seems because every buttons here relies on my own setups and must be adjusted for each project.

So take this as a proof of concept ! Everything you see here just works perfectly thanks to vMix and VMPB. It can be done (took me 2 or 3 days from scratch) so build your own and have fun !
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#9 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2020 7:33:50 PM(UTC)
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Thanks DWAM,

I’ll check out the Waves VST plugins.

Understand about the templates - I may have some further questions as I build!

Much appreciated.



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#10 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2020 10:18:10 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Peter
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Does it adjust gain as well

Nope. Gain must be adjusted on the audio interface for XLR inputs or on the guests side for vMixCalls
However the use of VST3 plugins helps a lot for volume control for the output
I recommend Waves plugins, they're fantastic.
Use this link to get a 10% discount on all purchase at waves.com : https://www.waves.com/r/fgcn5q
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Is the template for the above something you would pass on?

I have been thinking about it, but it's really not as easy as it seems because every buttons here relies on my own setups and must be adjusted for each project.

So take this as a proof of concept ! Everything you see here just works perfectly thanks to vMix and VMPB. It can be done (took me 2 or 3 days from scratch) so build your own and have fun !


Do you have any recommendations on useful VST plugins for Vmix? Thanks
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#11 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2020 11:14:25 PM(UTC)
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My favorites ones are:

for noise reduction:
- NS1
- W43

For EQ:
- F6

for levels balancing (not as good as an automix but helps)
- MaxxVolume

for mastering
- L1 or L2 (compression and limiter)

NS1/W43 and L1 come as a standard pack on every project to clean inputs and optimize output for stream and record.
MaxxVolume only comes when I have many people on stage and no audio guy
F6 only comes when the provided mics are not good enough (some venues provide low-end/crappy audio equipments)
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