is same as here

Still not grasping what you want but based on



There is a function called SetPanX, SetPanY and SetZoom

Have used those to move a title to a position based on a mouseclick in the preview window :-) (combined with Autohotkey)

the numbers are the same you see when manually changing position of input settings

Playing with the setpanX function, Looks like I can only apply it to inputs, not to the overlays (dsk).

In order for this to work, I need to change the values of the overlay's pip location. For example, OverlayInputNSetPanX(Y, Z). Perhaps a feature request?

However, you telling me about this function definitely allows me to clean up and improve efficiency in how I change the location of the pip.

Thanks
Jon

Yes, you do use an input to send to the overlay, but I'm wanting to change the overlay's coordinates.

If you open Overlay settings and set one to Picture in Picture, the lower section is enabled allowing you to resize the entire overlay. This allows you to send any input to your overlay and achieve the same size/location without having to adjust all your inputs. This also allows the merge to full function to work, since the original input is full screen.

My issue is that I want the picture in picture to be pragmatically assigned to the left or right, using the same overlay. Then I want to be able to merge from that overlay to a full input, or from full to overlay.

This doesn't work if you assign an input to the overlay that has a multiview overlay you are wanting to merge to/from.

I'll attempt to show using this pic. I'm not at the broadcast booth so I made this.

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As you can see, i have blue set to live, and PiPMaster on Overlay2. At any given time, Green or Red could be swapped, on, or off. As in, Red could be on the lower left instead of lower right, or not on at all. As a general rule of thumb, only one of the pip are on at a time.

For an example, say Red is active on the lower Right as pictured and Green is off. I want to merge from Red as an overlay, to red as my live out. Then in the future if Green is live out, I'd like to merge it to PiP on the lower left.

My work around does not allow a merge. I have the PiPMaster set with multivew overlays set to their coordinates. When I switch the location of the overlay, I turn off one and turn on the other. As a result, when I hit merge, it fades because PiPMaster is not the live output and even if it were, it's already full screen.

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In the overlay Settings, the picture in picture location is a resized overlay of the input. The original input is still "full screen" in regards to that input's settings, but is zoomed and resized in the overlay. So the setpanx will change the original input's location full screen, but within the red box of the overlay.

However, the more I write about this, and think about it, the more it may be more fruitful to consider changing to the Squerge effect. It just means I'll have more inputs configured. I was trying to keep it clean. I've been able to keep our input count to less than 50. While our family stream preset has over 400 inputs. It takes a good minute or so to open that file!

Hope this helps you understand a bit more what I'm trying to do. Maybe I can get this to work, maybe I can't. But either way, a function to set coordinates of the overlay would be a nice feature to have. Even moving Multivew would be awesome!

Jon

You are probably right. I was trying to keep my layers under control. I had it that way in the past, I'll try a few test presets to see if it's better.

Thanks for your input.

Jon

http://localhost:8088/API/?Function=Merge&Mix=1

It's the Mix=1

To add a new mix, click the little triangle next to Input and click "Mix."

And you can have 4 mini mixers that can all have separate in/outs and overlay each other!!! This does exactly what I need, even if way over complicated.

Thanks for the help.

Jon

I agree with keeping it simple, however, by duplicating all the inputs, i also have to duplicate the buttons on my control surface.

So in order to keep my control surface simple, my preset has to be complicated. And actually, it's not all that complicated. It's just a submix that is universally able to be overlain on top of any input without extra configuration.

By using the Mix2 setup, I can keep one button per camera applicable to any state. And in the future when we increase cameras, there will be very little setup.

I use the streamdeck. I have my PiP control folder which is where the PiP is defined. i can modify those functions to also preview the defined PiP and location in Mix2.

When I hit the merge button, it tells mix2 to merge.

The more I think about it, using Mix2 for full screen pip, then creating a mix3 for squerge, allows me to be quite flexible and keep my streamdeck streamlined!

But my mom will tell you, I've always found ways to over complicate and call it simple.

Jon