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FrankLeggett  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2018 1:37:55 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

When I display a ticker the text has to clear the screen before it loops so you have a big gap between the end of the text and the text starting again basically the width of the page. Is there a way to reduce the gap between the end of the text and the start of the text again?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2018 3:32:02 AM(UTC)
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Hi Frank,

If you right-click on your ticker input and Choose Title Editor, you'll notice a clock (Duration). If you click here, you can choose the duration.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2018 3:45:57 AM(UTC)
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Hi Rudy,

The duration isn't the problem it's the fact that the is a blank line at the end before the loop starts again. The ticker I want to show is a list of current prices and after the last price on the list has to disappear off screen before the first price reappears when the loop happens.

As to duration it would be better if this was changed to speed as the length of the text file can change but we don't need the speed to change because of the length of text. At present if I only have a few prices the crawl speed is slow but if I have a lot of prices the crawl speed is too fast.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2018 4:15:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: FrankLeggett Go to Quoted Post
As to duration it would be better if this was changed to speed as the length of the text file can change but we don't need the speed to change because of the length of text. At present if I only have a few prices the crawl speed is slow but if I have a lot of prices the crawl speed is too fast.

These things are being addressed in the feature set of the new GT Title Designer in vMix v22, so in a month or two you will be able to try it when the first beta is released - final version expected around the time of NAB in April.
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#5 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2018 7:25:26 PM(UTC)
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Looking forward to the new title designer then! The only "solution" I've found to this is to copy and paste the text to its maximum value so the loop issue is less frequent. It's not elegant at ALL though and annoying to update.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 4, 2018 1:51:18 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

Just a thought of how I've solved similar issues in the past. Try duplicating the input (virtual input of it) then use triggers and timings on them to alternate between them both. So set the trigger on each to be on "Transition in" with a suitable delay to allow the active file to play through to the blank spot. Rince and repeat by making them trigger each other. Hope that makes sense and helps till title designer drops.

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#7 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2019 2:46:26 AM(UTC)
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Has the blank spaces in the ticker been addressed with GT Title Designer?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2019 4:17:20 AM(UTC)
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Has the blank spaces in the ticker been addressed with GT Title Designer?



Its sort of has

one can "add" data to the ticker meaning new data will be added to the running ticker
depending on the time between the current text already displayed and the added text the spacing might vary

one trick i noted to let different data follow (but have to play with the time interval) is using a data source in the ticker and let the data source loop

Video example
FrankLeggett  
#9 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2019 4:49:06 AM(UTC)
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Hi how do i have 2 instances of the same txt file so I can remove the gap.

My ticker loads a txt file that is remotedly updated every 2 - 3 mins
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#10 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2019 5:15:58 AM(UTC)
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Hi how do i have 2 instances of the same txt file so I can remove the gap.

My ticker loads a txt file that is remotedly updated every 2 - 3 mins


- how does your ticker loads a txt file? data source does
- who controls the structure of the txt file (what about duplicating the content of the txt within the txt file ?) for the data source ? (maybe convert your list of prices to a list rather than a simple continuous text ?)
- btw i found the trick posted before by trying things out not because i knew and as mentioned play with the timing which will influence the spacing and/or the {0} formatting

- I imagine some scripting could also be used
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#11 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2019 6:51:40 PM(UTC)
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Excuse my skillset but I'm an AV engineer, not an amateur coder so I don't have the knowledge how to create the data sources myself.

I have the data in 2 different formats:
Format 1 is in a txt file where it is a line of text which I just want to repeat with only a couple of spaces between each repeat.
Format 2 is in a spreadsheet which I can load into Data Sources but again it is only one line. If VMix allowed me to load this in as columns of data as well as lines I could chose 5 columns and put them on repeat.

I am reluctant to spend more money on coding and it still not working.

What you are suggesting Dodgy and genuinely many thanks for the replies and the video is a workaround.

Basically I am hoping that due to my deficiencies I am missing a tickbox or properties setting in Data Source Manager or GT Designer that solves my problem.

Many thanks
Frank
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#12 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 12:36:45 AM(UTC)
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if you have the data in an excel file put a formula in the second line that automatically copies the contents of line one (A2 has =A1 for example) in this excel file
and use this excel( or csv) file as your data source

if a txt file has a comma in it and its saved and imported as data source as a csv file (even renamed) it will treat it as different rows
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#13 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 1:03:49 AM(UTC)
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Can't do either as both the txt file and the spreadsheet are generate by a JavaScript programmer created by a third party. The JaveScript program listens to data generated by a bidboard on a certain port and then catches that data and popultes a txt file and a spreadsheet.
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Can't do either as both the txt file and the spreadsheet are generate by a JavaScript programmer created by a third party. The JaveScript program listens to data generated by a bidboard on a certain port and then catches that data and popultes a txt file and a spreadsheet.


got it

it all depends how important it is to you but currently you basically could just use a simple Batch script (the same commands you can enter directly from the windows command prompt )

Code:


echo , >> test.txt
copy test.txt + test.txt newfile.csv



First command will append a comma to the original text in the test file
second command will copy and append the full content of the text file to the newfile.csv
save this in a bat file (like myappender.bat ) and run it
use the created csv file as a datasource

automation: at regular interval clear the newfile and run the bat file or have a filescanner ( checking for changes) trigger the bat file etc

above is quick and dirty solution
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#15 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 3:13:27 AM(UTC)
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I have done a test where the text file is saved as a .csv file as there is already commas between sold lots but this still loads into Data Source Manager as columns and not rows so this is the same as the .xsl version and the tickers sees it as one line only.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 3:17:31 AM(UTC)
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I have also tried just copying the first line in the text file and repeating underneath but that just creates a longer ticker but there is still a gap while the line clears the screen before the ticker appears again.
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I have done a test where the text file is saved as a .csv file as there is already commas between sold lots but this still loads into Data Source Manager as columns and not rows so this is the same as the .xsl version and the tickers sees it as one line only.


check de video again, the rows of the datasource is auto looped (auto next)! thats why it is possible to get the text closer together as is responds to changing data
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#18 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 3:48:34 AM(UTC)
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My csv file loads into Data Source Manager as columns not rows. So there is no next line of data.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 4:06:32 AM(UTC)
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is convert rows to columns unchecked ?
Do you have an example of your needed file ?
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#20 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2019 7:34:50 AM(UTC)
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It makes no difference whether it is ticked or not
VMix Screenshot.png (224kb) downloaded 4 time(s).
Here is a copy of the text file, I have also experimented and saved as a CSV file.

Lot 20 110,000 GBP, Lot 19 30,000 GBP, Lot 18 50,000 GBP, Lot 17 200,000 GBP, Lot 16 Not Sold
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