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DWAM  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:53:20 AM(UTC)
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Just a quick info to promote NDI apps from Garanin

NTRStreamer is a little utility that takes an NDI source as an input and streams it to RTMP.
http://garaninapps.com/

RTMPMiniServer is a little RTMP server that can ingest up to 4 RTMP streams and convert them to NDI with pretty low latency (about 1 second). This one is a beta version looking for beta testers.
http://garaninapps.com/r..._HXPK0fRYoPa9pG0Fi5f3O8c

I tried both of them successfully. RTMPMiniServer still needs improvements (especially optimization for RAM usage and UI) but both utilities are good tools to have.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2018 9:27:14 PM(UTC)
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this would be perfect to test out of season been using restream just to get over what I call the fence but paying for a service I'm not using fully there
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#3 Posted : Friday, November 9, 2018 10:03:28 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 10:53:26 PM(UTC)
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Hy , can you tell me how to setup RTMPMiniServer
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#5 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 11:48:01 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Guillaume for make a small medialooks app. Is it possible to integrate some authentication for RTMP targets. Username and password are required for serious approaches. But a good starting point. I resizing would be appreciated as well. That should be super easy with the medialooks SDK. Take a look at the mixer app provided with the SDK.

Cool, just continue development.
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#6 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 11:56:25 PM(UTC)
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1 . enter a streamkey in of of the 4 slots/encoders. For example "MyStream"

2 . RTMPMini indicates on top the 1st part of the url to use. For example if your computer'sIP address is 192.168.0.1 and uses port 1935 for RTMP, it shows rtmp://192.168.0.1:1935/live

3 . start RTMPMini listen feature

4 . go to your encoder, set it as you wish and enter "rtmp://192.168.0.1:1935/live/MyStream" as the destination or "rtmp://192.168.0.1:1935/live" for the server and "MyStream" for the key

5 . start pushing

6 . RTMPMini's led will turn green when RTMP stream is detected and it starts transcoding to NDI

7 . use an NDI player (vMix or NDI Monitor for example) and select one of the 4 RTMPMini outputs (the one you entered a streamkey for)

That's it!
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 12:00:06 AM(UTC)
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Garanin's apps are Michael Garanin's apps. Not mine

Medialooks services are from Medialooks company. I'm not related to them in any way... and I'm not sure vMix forum is the best place to submit feature requests for Medialooks solutions!!!

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Thanks DWAM!!!
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This RTMPMiniServer work only on local network?
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 6:14:59 PM(UTC)
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This RTMPMiniServer work only on local network?

Obviously not but I won't explain how to use it behind a router/firewall 'cos it's fully documented over the internet. There are several ways to get it to work depending on your own infrastructure. Google is your friend for this, check for "port forwarding for RTMP server" for example

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 7:02:10 AM(UTC)
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Hi, I'm really interested but I'm not sure if I've understood correctly.
You can use a rtmp/rtsp encoder (or an app on the smartphone) to stream directly to a server with this software and a public ip address. Then the software "transforms" the streaming input signal into an ndi signal that can be used in a Vmix production. Is this correct?

If this is correct, which is the delay?

Thanks

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 4:27:26 PM(UTC)
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RTMP is by definition no real time protocol. For pure transport of NDI signal over WAN/Internet just have a look at medialooks.com With their tool you will get sub second transmission. Typically at the 200ms mark. Or use vmix call. Both use WebRTC.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:24:41 PM(UTC)
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You can use a rtmp/rtsp encoder (or an app on the smartphone) to stream directly to a server with this software and a public ip address. Then the software "transforms" the streaming input signal into an ndi signal that can be used in a Vmix production. Is this correct?

Not quite, as its name implies "RTMPMiniServer" is a RTMP server which goal is to receive RTMP feeds from any RTMP encoder (RTSP is a different protocol, not supported here) in order to convert them into NDI. It can be used on a LAN or over the internet like all streaming protocols.

Btw if you want to fully understand, best is to try and see how it works and if it suits your needs... That's rule #1 : test everything, especially when it's free or with a free trial !

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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:54:30 AM(UTC)
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Thank you very much. I'll try RTMP mini server and medialooks

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#15 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 1:30:36 AM(UTC)
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There is now a Help page for RTMPMiniServer

http://garaninapps.com/rtmpminiserver/help

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, January 1, 2019 5:53:54 AM(UTC)
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The Instructions Fail to point out you need to put your Password/Stream key after the /live in the app you will use. example "rtmp://LOCAL_IP:1935/live". should be "rtmp://LOCAL_IP:1935/live/YOUR KEY". hope this helps
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, January 1, 2019 6:16:11 AM(UTC)
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The Instructions Fail to point out you need to put your Password/Stream key after the /live in the app you will use.


I think I made this point very clear in my tutorial above

https://forums.vmix.com/...s-from-Garanin#post59724
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 1, 2019 6:19:36 AM(UTC)
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im talking about the website
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#19 Posted : Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:22:44 AM(UTC)
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Hello,

Thanks Guillaume for this post.
I have tested this app, RTMP mini-server. Is exactly what I was looking for.
Medialook's Video Transport works only from the Publisher PC to a Receiver PC and with a large bandwidth.
Did not work for me.
I can connect to the RTMP Mini Server with any RTMP capable encoder.
I can use a video camera, with a built-in RTMP encoder, or with a smartphone with a RTMP app,
stream video to MiniServer over the Internet. Latency about 500 milliseconds. This also works from VMix (second license), etc.
Prerequisite, in the router port, eg. Release 1935 and a fixed IP address (public IP). I use DynDNS NO-IP.
This RTMP miniserver works from the internet or on the local network. But everything is described in the manual.

Vmixcall is WebRTC and video transmission is not as good as RTMP Miniserver.
Everyone has to test themselves.
In my opinion, the best smartphone app for RTMP is LarixBroadcaster (free app for iOS and Android).
So you can stream into the studio with little effort from around the world. Bitrate adjustable.

Greeting
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#20 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2019 7:31:00 AM(UTC)
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Hello,

A new version of the RTMPMiniServer has been released.

Have done some tests today, on the Internet and good results erziehlt. LarixBroadcaster with Cerevo LiveShell 2
and with notebook and the vMix software streaming
A big advantage is that you can also use a smartphone and the app LarixBroadcaster to stream to the studio via the Internet. Latency about 500 - 1000 milliseconds.

Instructions here.

Greeting
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