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w14  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:20:10 AM(UTC)
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Hi Martin and team,

I have just installed 20.0.0.42 and unfortunately the NDI commands for triggering individual titles in Titler Live still do not work. So:

- AnimateInAll / AnimateOutAll / AnimateInOutAll works

- AnimateIn1 / AnimateOut1 / AnimateInOut1 etc do nothing

Is there any update on when this will be working again?

Many thanks.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:34:33 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

There should be an update available in the NewBlueFX update manager that fixes the problem on the Titler end.
If not, contact their support for the update.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:06:44 PM(UTC)
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I can confirm that only the ...All.. commands works with Titler Live 3 version 3.0.171013

Not sure about the "NewBlueFX Update manager" as I can't find it. Maybe because I'm using the trial version.
I have an Application manager, but there is no Update button or similar to be found.
Anyone got a registered version?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 23, 2017 3:12:29 PM(UTC)
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Hi Martin, I have the licenced version of Titler Live Present, version 3.0.171013 which is the current version, and its not working with that I[m afraid. Support request in with NewBlueFX.

Richard, on the mac version, if you go to the Titler Live menu and select "about" you'll get the application manager up and you can see if there are any updates available. Can't help if you're using the Windows version I'm afraid.
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The fixed version is 3.0.171014 or higher, so check with NewBlueFX support if you do not have access to the update.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:30:43 PM(UTC)
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admin wrote:
The fixed version is 3.0.171014 or higher, so check with NewBlueFX support if you do not have access to the update.


I have version 3.0.171014 and will give it a test tomorrow...
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#7 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2017 4:25:26 AM(UTC)
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w14 wrote:
Richard, on the mac version, if you go to the Titler Live menu and select "about" you'll get the application manager up and you can see if there are any updates available. Can't help if you're using the Windows version I'm afraid.


Thanks w14
I can't find a similar update info in the app manager for Windows. There is a link to downloads via NewBlueFX's donwload section. But the download package is still 3.0.171013. I'll simply await their response to your support request.
(Kind of eager though, their Blackfriday deal is 30% off...)
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#8 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2017 7:07:59 AM(UTC)
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Do you guys find NewBlue reliable in vMix?

I've only ever used them in NLE's and found them to be flaky and unstable. I was also unimpressed when I bought an NLE suite that had NewBlue included which worked ok until I tried to update NewBlue and suddenly everything came up as a trial version with an enormous watermark, which neither NewBlue nor the NLE manufacturer wanted to fix.
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#9 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2017 10:17:54 AM(UTC)
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NHT wrote:
Do you guys find NewBlue reliable in vMix?

I've only ever used them in NLE's and found them to be flaky and unstable. I was also unimpressed when I bought an NLE suite that had NewBlue included which worked ok until I tried to update NewBlue and suddenly everything came up as a trial version with an enormous watermark, which neither NewBlue nor the NLE manufacturer wanted to fix.


When they announced NDI support in Titler Live Broadcast last year I purchased it for all or advanced motion graphics and scoring as I do all my design work on Mac OS. We run it on Mac Pros and Mac Book Pros and feed it into vMix via NDI and have not had any issues. The learning curve is steep, but once you start creating all your own graphics and animations it is very fast to work with.

I attached an image example of the type of animated live graphics we roll as we get stats from data sources. This is not a one man show as we spend weeks designing/prepping graphics and then have an operator and creative director during the stream queuing and rolling graphics. For small productions we use the built in titler tool in vMix.

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#10 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2017 10:25:08 AM(UTC)
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Will test the NDI title commands today to see if they are working...
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#11 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2017 12:30:10 PM(UTC)
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Just did a quick test on our production system and everything seems to be working with the latest update from NewblueFX.
vMix 20.0.0.30
NewBlueFX Titler Broadcast 3 - 171114 (Macbook Pro running MacOS High Sierra)

NDI data from Titler 1 though 16 all working and show up in vMix
Right mouse click on input allows user to use AnimateIn1 / AnimateOut1 / AnimateInOut1 - 1 is the first title in NewblueFX
Right click on input also allows editable text to be change inside vMix title editor
Tested Animate 1 - through 5 and they work fine.
Note: if you set title time in NewblueFX Titler the AnimateInOut displays and runs the title for the set time.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:57:10 PM(UTC)
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SHMD wrote:
NHT wrote:
Do you guys find NewBlue reliable in vMix?

I've only ever used them in NLE's and found them to be flaky and unstable. I was also unimpressed when I bought an NLE suite that had NewBlue included which worked ok until I tried to update NewBlue and suddenly everything came up as a trial version with an enormous watermark, which neither NewBlue nor the NLE manufacturer wanted to fix.


When they announced NDI support in Titler Live Broadcast last year I purchased it for all or advanced motion graphics and scoring as I do all my design work on Mac OS. We run it on Mac Pros and Mac Book Pros and feed it into vMix via NDI and have not had any issues. The learning curve is steep, but once you start creating all your own graphics and animations it is very fast to work with.

I attached an image example of the type of animated live graphics we roll as we get stats from data sources. This is not a one man show as we spend weeks designing/prepping graphics and then have an operator and creative director during the stream queuing and rolling graphics. For small productions we use the built in titler tool in vMix.



That's cool, hows's the transparency handled over NDI?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, November 25, 2017 8:37:01 PM(UTC)
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NHT wrote:


That's cool, hows's the transparency handled over NDI?


Transparency Alpha channel is passed via the NDI, a great feature for using NDI with graphics!
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SHMD wrote:
NHT wrote:


That's cool, hows's the transparency handled over NDI?


Transparency Alpha channel is passed via the NDI, a great feature for using NDI with graphics!


Thanks, I'd never noticed the ARGB32 option before that's awesome.
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#15 Posted : Monday, November 27, 2017 2:18:31 PM(UTC)
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Glad to hear it's working for you SHMD.

But! me and w14 have Titler Live Present, not Broadcast.
Martin, can you please confirm it should work with the "Present" edition?
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#16 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:36:31 PM(UTC)
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A brief update: Via NewBlueFX's support I got Titler Live 3 Present v3.0.17.11.21, which basically works with vMix (NDIcommands and title editing). This update is not yet publically released.

There are a few issues/bugs that I need to isolate/test further. I'll try to sort these out asap, but I'm pretty busy with productions for a week or so. I'll be back. Meanwhile, the whole things looks quite promising :)
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we just had a day where every time we enabled ndi on the output it just shut down. Has any experienced this or got an idea?
it's not what it looked like at first where we thought it was connecting to the internet that caused it.. we went offline loaded the project, switched ndi off, switched the internet back on (waited) then switched ndi back on and it just dissapeared
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