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Faflon  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 2, 2022 1:29:52 AM(UTC)
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Hello,

For streaming im using Vmix, and recently i bought Blackmagic Studio 4k Pro Cameras. They have build-in Tally lights, which are working PnP with ATEM switchers software.

But is it any way that i can activate those build-in lights via Vmix only?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 2, 2022 5:15:58 AM(UTC)
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Short and simple. No. The cameras get tally information through the return signal. Sdi or HDMI. Without a atem switcher you would have to get the Arduino sdi shield and code that to embed the needed data.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2022 2:33:09 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much!! Very useful advice
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#4 Posted : Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:11:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Faflon Go to Quoted Post
Hello,

For streaming im using Vmix, and recently i bought Blackmagic Studio 4k Pro Cameras. They have build-in Tally lights, which are working PnP with ATEM switchers software.

But is it any way that i can activate those build-in lights via Vmix only?


There is ways aroud that. I'm buying a broken Atem Television Studio HD with some inputs/outputs broken to get the pgm/aux out into the cameras and have a way to sent camera control and tally info to the cameras.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2024 5:12:22 AM(UTC)
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Blackmagic have just brought out a whole bunch of new SMTPE 2110 compatible devices, it looks like their future direction is having 2110 ethernet ports on all future devices.

It's great because you can plug any device anywhere on your 10G network and it can send uncompressed video anywhere.

They are upgrading the Blackmagic Studio Camera to 2110.. this means: DC power, Video, audio, return video, return audio, talkback, camera control AND tally can run over one single CAT6A cable, this is AMAZING to simplify setup when doing live streaming or in a studio environment.

vMIX can you PLEASE add tally control output (Via 2110 or SDI card) for the studio camera, because vMix combined with a 2110 camera would be complete heaven for so many people!!!

In the past you could use third party devices like Skaarhoj to insert this into the SDI cable, with with 2110 it's ethernet based so this won't work, the ethernet cable goes from the Decklink card to a switch, and the camera plugs into the switch.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2024 4:06:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mashynewie2 Go to Quoted Post
Blackmagic have just brought out a whole bunch of new SMTPE 2110 compatible devices, it looks like their future direction is having 2110 ethernet ports on all future devices.


Yes and no. They did indicate that there was some form of compression present in order to fit the 12G signal into a 10G ethernet NIC, which realistically means ~9200mbps max (you need to account for ethernet framing, etc, all within the 10,000,000,000 bits per second the interface supports). I think I heard that they plan to "open" the compression, similar to what they did with the BMD Raw spec, but... interoperability likely remains a concern.

Originally Posted by: mashynewie2 Go to Quoted Post
It's great because you can plug any device anywhere on your 10G network and it can send uncompressed video anywhere.


Again, yes and no. If by "10G network" you mean "switch fabric with 10G edge ports and multiple 100G backbone links working in concert", then sure. If you mean "I use a 10G backbone", then, no, not so much. Dante AV is the closest thing we have at the moment, and they lean rather harder on the hardware compression. Even so, 12G-SDI is only compressed down to ~920mbit/sec/flow, iirc. And that's about 4x larger than the full-frame NDI specs so far. The Dante AV compression is based on full-frame JPEG2000, which is allegedly only single-generation lossy; as in, if you take a frame, encode it using their codec, take the output frame from that, and reencode it, you'll get the same frame back (no additional loss). With a Dante AV network and a limited number of cameras, you might be able to get away with using a single 10G link as a backbone for your switch fabric (alternatively, you could connect everything to a single switch), but with the SMPTE 2110 I don't think that a single-link 10G backbone will be viable for anything aside from HD-SDI over 2110.

Originally Posted by: mashynewie2 Go to Quoted Post
They are upgrading the Blackmagic Studio Camera to 2110.. this means: DC power, Video, audio, return video, return audio, talkback, camera control AND tally can run over one single CAT6A cable, this is AMAZING to simplify setup when doing live streaming or in a studio environment.


For the copper stuff, yes, you can definitely send power. PoE++ (802.3bt) permits up to 100W of power (71W minimum) for type 4 devices, which delivers power over all 4 pairs (including the data pairs), or 60W (minimum 51) delivered over either 2 of all 4 pairs, depending on the class of device that is receiving the power. Minimum power spec depends on the overall length of cable from your switch. Shorter runs are obviously better, which brings us back to the limitations of the backbone links on your fabric.

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