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davidcl  
#1 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:59:34 PM(UTC)
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HI All vMix users

I try to do something with trigger, i explain (Not easy for me french guy)

So i 'CUT' a video and trigger OVL1 a TITLE1 (Title THEME - for example) , during the video i want to send manualy OVL1 TITLE2 (Title people) and after Xs (i know how doing that) i want coming BACK TO TITLE1 automatic.

I hope you understand what i mean

sincerely
David
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#2 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2021 6:11:10 PM(UTC)
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Confused as you say " and after Xs (i know how doing that)"

SO on title 2 input you add trigger OnOverlayIn with delay to OverlayInput your first title (on same overlay number)
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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2021 7:24:46 PM(UTC)
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its not easy for me to explain in english.
i try a google transalate.

Is for a TV news.
when launching a subject, the subject's theme must appear.
then during the reading of the subject must appear the name of the speaker, (manually) then return to the subject of the element. All this of course on one and the same OVL.

of course the same person can appear in several subjects so I cannot do ON OVL OUT (speaker) OVL IN (subject).

I take an example: Subject 1: 'Coronavirus title' (speaker the Minister of Health)
Subject 3: 'hospital visit' (Minister of Health speaker). therefore the same speaker but in different subjects.
I therefore cannot make a trigger the subjects can be different.
I would therefore need to retrieve the name of OVL (subject) to put it back later automatically

I hope more explicit.

Thanks again.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:14:52 PM(UTC)
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to rephrase: You have multiple subjects that needs to be shown , each subject can have multiple speakers to be shown

I would suggest using 2 data sources (one list with subjects and one list with names) will make it easier to select from the open data source lists if the lists are not to long one could create shortcuts to point to a specific row in the lists

From what i understand you want the title to show the subject and then "replaced" by the name (visually) and return to the subject within the same textbox ?
You could create a title animation that responds to a datachange on the name , hide the subject, and after some time hides the name and show the subject again
Understand why you want the name to appear and disappear but why should the subject need to disappear ?
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#5 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2021 11:10:04 PM(UTC)
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Quick example of one possibility

Animation happens when the Name textbox data changes , not on the event name box
The display duration time of the Name is set within the GT title (delay)
Animations chosen for clarity of example.



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#6 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2021 7:39:14 AM(UTC)
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Thanks

i do with 2 Databases its good for the first step Thanks.

But...
i want to optimise maximum the process
Because now i have a lot of Titles tracks
for example :
15 subjects to play
each subject a overlay for TITLE THE NAME OF THE EACH SUBJECT
and in each subject 2 ou 3 Title NAME (people who are inteview)
And in each subject at the end the report people..(15 scripts - from you Doggy Thanks..) send an overlay 6s before the end..)


so imagine 15 + 30 (mini)+ 15 TITLE TRACKS....

and its for that i want to optimiz / automatiz a max.
Thanks

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Thanks

i do with 2 Databases its good for the first step Thanks.

But...
i want to optimise maximum the process
Because now i have a lot of Titles tracks
for example :
15 subjects to play
each subject a overlay for TITLE THE NAME OF THE EACH SUBJECT
and in each subject 2 ou 3 Title NAME (people who are inteview)
And in each subject at the end the report people..(15 scripts - from you Doggy Thanks..) send an overlay 6s before the end..)


so imagine 15 + 30 (mini)+ 15 TITLE TRACKS....

and its for that i want to optimiz / automatiz a max.
Thanks



15 title tracks ???? no this is not what one needs to do

1 title with build in animation when speaker changes and just 2 lists one with the names and one with the subjects ( o basically endless combinations ) just with a few clicks ( selecting subject and or name)
No script at all needed !

Have you studied using titles with data sources ( vMix videos) ?

While as seen in the video (could be other animation instead of the fly in ) i personally find it a very weird way to display the information (then again one could design the title in a similar fashion where the subject does not disappear ;-) )
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#8 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2021 8:31:18 AM(UTC)
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The example for more comprehension

thanks

TITLE 1 = SUBJECT
TITLE 2/3/4 = PEOPLE talking (send manualy) if its possible to send in automic this the corrct timing ???
TITLE 5 reporters Send autom 6s before the end (from DOGGY scrip.. thanks..)


i hope you see more

SO for 1 SUBJECT LIKE THIS i have 5 title tracks

and this 15 subject like this.... 75 tracks.....you see...

thanks Doggy
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#9 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2021 5:25:13 PM(UTC)
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SO is possible to have only 3 title tracks. SUBJECT/NAME/REPORTER for ALL VIDEOs I SEND (maxi 15)

* When in cut my video (sample VIDEO XX)
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO XX
---> at YYsecondes OVL1 THE NAME 01 of VIDEO XX
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO XX
---> at YYsecondes OVL1 THE NAME 02 of VIDEO XX
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO XX
---> at YYsecondes OVL1 THE NAME 03 of VIDEO XX
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO XX
---> at 6s before the END OVL1 THE REPORTER of VIDEO XX

after CUT VIDEO X2
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO X2
---> at YYsecondes OVL1 THE NAME 01 of VIDEO X2
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO X2
---> at YYsecondes OVL1 THE NAME 02 of VIDEO X2
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO X2
---> at YYsecondes OVL1 THE NAME 03 of VIDEO X2
---> trigger OVL1 the title SUBJECT of VIDEO X2
---> at 6s before the END OVL1 THE REPORTER of VIDEO X2
.....

for DATABASE NO PROBLEM
So my problem is how to say to title i want is going to take the 'name' in database corresponding of video XX,X1,.. automatic.
Having a link in when i send a video XX that all title who going during this video correpond of database video XX (SUBJECT/NAME and reporter)

so for that i will need only 3 title tracks and not 15(subject)+3*15(names)+15(reporter) = 75 tiles track like NOW I HAVE...
i hope you understand what i try to do.
im not SURE if its possible.

Thanks a LOT


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#10 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2021 7:25:11 PM(UTC)
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I have no idea why you are going from Cameroon to Gabon via the Northpole ?


you have 2 solutions :
if they look totally different 2 titles
You display the the subject one , and when you display the name one which has a trigger it to display the the subject one after a delay set within the trigger

or you create a title with both displays within that responds to a data change of name field animating it for a period of time like i showed in my video

In both cases use a data source to make your live easier , load the correct selection of your data source ( select from the list)
in the first case click display the name overlay and its trigger will revert back to subject after delay, in the second case it will act automatically when selecting a name

for the subject just select from the other list of subjects. thats it

2 or 1 title to overlay , 2 lists ( one with subjects, and one with names , and select however you like ) That is it!

We are talking live production here , not Post production ( editing)

you mention automating it based on video clips , sure one can create a script that responds to the name of the file ( script triggered by loading of the clip and select from there but its not even worth developing that doing that as above is so much easier but the principle would be the same (except on could put the timings within the script instead)
The file names would need some structure in their names, script would convert that to a selection from the data source etc. Probably more work to have all the videos named properly in the first place

BTW stick the vMix naming items (vMix doesnt have tracks and uses Data SOURCES etc)

Also stop moving the goal post, you started with 2 titles , now we are at 3 !

EDIT: think i m starting to see what you are getting at ( you took a detour in trying to explain) :
want to load/play a video clip and automatically display (3) titles for a specific time in succession , each video has specific title information ( possible how you would time that with the footage like the moment speaker appears etc i have no idea ). manually calling a script at certain times based on the video name for the information selection automatically is possible
davidcl  
#11 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2021 10:44:37 PM(UTC)
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No im work In Gabon not Cameroun (since 20 years...) im in hollyday in bordeaux NOW...

I think you unerstand more and more my problems/

I use DATABASE (No problem for that)

what i want
15 videos
3 titles (SUBJECTxx,PEOBLExx,REPORTERxx)

My problems (2)
* when i cut the VIDEO001 i what that all 3 title goes to take the row 001 for example
* if its possible like you can see on the DATABSE EXCEL FILE at the time (from the start video SEND THE TILE corresponding...


i hope you can see more its not easy (and in english MORE... hihihi..)
how doing that please.


Thanks a lot for your help

TEST DATABASE.xlsx (8kb) downloaded 5 time(s).
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