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Hi all folks, last year we streamed some Winter Triathlon events using SDI cables. This year the organizing Committee is asking for the same service but I want give a try on NDI-HX. Why NDI-HX? Becase I'm tired to run very long SDI cables under 50cm of snow and normal NDI is not suitable to be transported by wireless AC devices. Setup: ah2.jpg (471kb) downloaded 11 time(s).3x Kiloview E1 encoders connected to SDI cameras 1x PTZ Optics 20x camera with NDI-HX firmware 2x JVC HM200 with RTMP 1x production PC with vMix (I7-9800X, 32GB ram, GTX1080ti, 2x500Gb SSDs, 2x Gigabit LAN) - Single 1080-50p stream to Castr or Restream @ 6Mbps. The idea is to install 3x NanoStation5 AC (16dbi and 45° radiation angle) on a 21m crane and a NanoStation5Loco (10dbi and 45° radiation angle) on each camera. With this setup all the cameras are visible to the AP. The maximum distance between camera and AP is 300-400m. What do you think? Will it work?
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Interesting project. I would simply try it. A real test is better than someone's best guess. The Ubiquiti gear is cheap and otherwise useful. You could use fake sources. I suspect it would work fine. I might prefer to use more capable point-to-point links, like the Light Beam 5 Gen 2. That is, if the topography/geometry allowed it.
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Hi we use a bird-dog mini Pair (Encoder and Decoder) and a Ubiquiti NBE-5AC-Gen2 - airMAX(R) Pair as Bridge over 600 meters works very well
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Kiloview E1 arrived with Ubiquiti Nanobeam 5AC.
First test done with 25Mbps bitrate from E1 on 800m point-to-point... Let's see on the filed in 3-4 days!
I'm experiencing some dropping frames on vMix stats... Do you know what can cause that?
Pc is a notebook with I7-8750H, 8GB ram, GTX1060-6GB, on SSDs, 1GBit LAN.
Network is 1x Ubiquiti EdgerouterX and 1x Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch 10XP with 8x 1Gbit LAN.
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Interresting setup. Please share a link of the live stream if possible.
I'm using Mikrotik for long distance connections. They have products in the 2/5/60 GHz range. I would be worried a bit in the lower frequencies of interference and crowded areas. I personally would pick a 60 GHz link to be out of the spectrum for the masses. Mikrotik offers a wireless wire (60 GHz) with a 1Gbps bi-directional link. That would be my choice in a line of sight setup. I connected a golf club with a 1.2 Km link using a dyna dish p2p getting 300 mbps of throughput.
Wish you all the best and please share your experiences.
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Another option I would try is using an android device with larix broadcaster and SRT into vmix. This works very well.
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Originally Posted by: mavik Interresting setup. Please share a link of the live stream if possible.
I'm using Mikrotik for long distance connections. They have products in the 2/5/60 GHz range. I would be worried a bit in the lower frequencies of interference and crowded areas. I personally would pick a 60 GHz link to be out of the spectrum for the masses. Mikrotik offers a wireless wire (60 GHz) with a 1Gbps bi-directional link. That would be my choice in a line of sight setup. I connected a golf club with a 1.2 Km link using a dyna dish p2p getting 300 mbps of throughput.
Wish you all the best and please share your experiences. We also have the Mikrotik 60 GHz works very well (tested about 1200m), if the weather is fine if heavy rain or snow, connection goes down and sometimes lost
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Of corse. In heavy snow/rain/hail situations you have to deal with issues for everything you send through air. Even the OB van will have hard times to send to the satellite and needs to increase the power. In that situations I totally agree that the lower frequencies make more sense as they can bend more easily around obstacles.
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