I'd be up for that but only if you want to stress test it on 1mb upload speed, might not even get off the ground though.

what does blitz do differently to team viewer, is it a communication platform rather than a work thing like teamviewer because that already let's you connect and control a desktop (only one connection at a time?)

Hi Barney and Tuesdays

We can try Teamviewer too but Blizz is slightly different. It’s will be easier to explain during the testing which I’ll record and post a link up here.

I will be available today after 2 or. 3 pm Pacific. Or any time that’s okay for you Sunday.

I Prefer to have two people at the same time but can do it with one if necessary. And Barney — a stress test might be interesting :)

Rowby

cool I'm up for that, what time in the UK? I'll dm my email and that'll go straight to my phone

Hi I sent a PM to Barney and seeing if 9pm UK is ok for him (That's 2pm Pacific).

I am doing to try to be ready by 2pm Pacific and will let both of you know.

We'll start out with a vMix Call code that I'll give both of you.

Then download blizz on your end etc etc.

We'll video all of this, if you don't mind, so we can later share it with others here -- as a possible "solution" to desktop sharing.

I've spent days and long hours looking for other solutions that would work without being "too technical" for guests who would want things simple. For example, probably ManyCam is the best solution -- but for those who are not used to switching webcam settings, even that is chancy.

Blizz is more for civilians. Very friendly interface. And I am pretty sure I can get it all working with vMix Call...

The specifics we'll go over during our recorded test -- and everyone can see the steps I am taking to hopefully make it "all work". :)

Rowby

Sounds good on this end.

Report on test using Blizz for desktop with vMix Call.

So Barney and Tuesday (Rich) and I did the test.

It worked as expected, except for I was having audio issues on my own microphone. I think I made a glitch in one of my presets.

I will fix my microphone audio tomorrow and then will officially report success.

Blizz is very good, but not perfect. I wish Blizz would let me switch presenters. I don't think Blizz will let you switch presenters. I have a call into Blizz support but don't expect an affirmative response -- at least for now.

So here was our workaround that make it "work".

1) Used vMix call only for webcam and audio.

2) Used Blizz with audio and video muted. I'm only using the audio from vMix call. Only desktop from Blizz.

3) I had Blizz installed on my laptop. I am set up as a Blizz guest. The Blizz caller is the Meeting Host and invites me to view their desktop. I use vMix NDI desktop capture to send the Blizz desktop to my vMix main computer and use it in an input

4) I create another input which includes a Multiview which contains the two vmix calls. My webcam, and the NDI Blizz desktop. I make sure that in the multiview that all vMix callers are seen so we can hear all of their audio. If I showed desktops without vMix callers visible there would be no audio.

5) I let the presenter show their desktop for about 10 minutes. Then I end the first Blizz presentation and switch to another presenter to show their desktop.

This works for me because my programs consist of

1) Intro == me
2) Multiview of all guests in their vMix calls.

3) Each guest gets about 10 minutes to make their presentation. At the close of the presentation I close the Blizz meeting. Then I start a NEW meeting as a guest and "meeting ID" of the next presenter. It just take a few seconds. It might seem awkward but it works very smoothly and quickly. I only have two guests per production at this point.

This works for me. Since my productions are very structured. If I had guests who needed to share their desktops randomly whenever they wanted during a group discussion Blizz would not work. But for me this will be fine.

The ideal solution would be for vMix Call to somehow let guests share their desktop, but I don't think that is technically possible.

There are other "desktop" solutions I have investigated. Some are okay -- others require guests to have some basic technical knowledge of their audio and video systems, which I would not want to get into.

For example, MANYCAMS is an excellent solution -- but even that is something I would rather not use because even though it is simple for me -- I would not want to have to set it up for every guest --and then "undo" the Manycam settings at the end of a production. However if I had the same guests for each show then I would seriously consider Manycams. In my case I have different guests each week.

In any case It was a pleasure to have our hour long session with Barney and Thursday. Live video has a humanizing effect that really brings people to life. Great to see Thursday and Barney "live" -- being so helpful -- and all of us learning from each other.

Rowby

I am finding Blizz to be a very interesting solution for sharing deskstops or apps (powerpoint) for use with vMix Call. I'm doing some more testing later today and Tuesday. I am using the Free version -- which can include 5 people. What's nice is I can change presenters on the fly.

BTW Blizz is made by the TeamViewer people.

So far as I understand anyone who needs to be heard must be visible on the screen (multiview). I would imagine even a zoomed out one pixel size vMix call would be good enough to trigger the accompanied vMix Call audio.

I am not sure, but I don't think that "follow video" would make it work. But you could try that.

I haven't tried using a picture in a picture. But I will try that. For now I am using this kind of a layout. (I have various versions of this graphic depending on who I want to show on the screen -- via multiview.

the below graphics are PNGS with transparent windows. Even though they are showing up as white or black here on the forum. I cut out the windows so they are transparent.

In Multiview I put the videos behind the windows so I can resize and position the vMix callers. And the big window is for Blizz where I show the Desktop. Or I could use Blizz to show a specific application such as a Power Point.

I use a separate laptop for Blizz and use vMix Desktop Capture NDI to bring it into my main vMix PC. I imagine Blizz would work as well on the main PC, but I like having Blizz on my laptop so I can easily work the controls -- switching Presenters, etc.

In the first graphic below, I have three vVmix callers on the left. And the Main Vmix Caller in the big window. But of course there could be a desktop or Powerpoint via Blizz and vMix Desktop Capture instead in that big window.

Hi Tuesdays

In this "early days" (a year ago) of vMix Call Roy Price was having a problem hearing vMix callers unless they were visible on the screen. Below is a link to his YouTube video.




Does your method work around the "issue" Roy Price brought up?

Rowby

Do you think Blizz can be used instead of vmixcall?

After experimenting with Blizz I have decided only to use its screen share (and application share) feature. Not the webcam or audio. Audio can be muted within Blizz. So no audio at all will come my way.

SO I will still use vMix Call for the webcam and use Blizz only for desktop sharing..

I like the way Blizz lets me switch presenters. So that's all I would be using in blizz. So no mix minus issues. No issues of matching lip sinc.

Rowby