Hi Andreas,

thanks for your reply to my feature request.

I have tested the web presenter both as a separate unit for streaming to skype on a separate computer and this works well. This is its intended use.

And I jave tested it as an input to vmix. both for powerpoint captire and as a quick extra 2 camera input via usb2. I checked the frame rate and also the software settings like you can with any normal webcam. I was especially interested in sharpening which you can adjust.

I have to do some more testing.

an other issue is framerate. As I understand from bm and the manual this is auto adjusted based on feedback from the program. there are no settings to set frame rate. I guess disabling auto mode and tweaking the different settings of this webcam like gain and exposior etc might be a way to set and lock the grame rate.

I did not receive the front yet. When I have it I can monitor framerate directly and changes to the frame rate based on tweaking.

I also plan to ask BM the same thing and ask for a software method or setting to fix the framerate at 25 ( or any other ).

Output is mjpeg 720p xx

Just did some preliminairy testing, so will report back again later.

stefan

For what it is worth, devices like the AJA U-Tap and Magewell dongles already have this functionality with a lot more flexibility and at a lower cost.

For example with both of these you can use them in USB 2.0 PCs by simply selecting a lower resolution and frame rate in vMix.
You can also bring in video up to 1080p with these devices, while the Web Presenter is limited both in frame rate and resolution options.

Correct. The main difference is that the Web Presenter is kind of a Semi-Duo-Input (switchable). And also it's integrated teranex conversion.
But I'm still not sure if it could be a good option as a vMix input. I think it all depends on conversion capabilities.

I'm really looking forward to Stefan's test results.

contacted bm emeavwith a bunch of feedbaack on the web presenter.

let's go:

1 audio is terrible. there are several issues: web presenter will mix all and every input together. there is no way to turn an audio input off. if you connect a gopro per example ypur audio will be on all the time

with a transition the sound is lost for a fraction of time.

sound is muttled and something is wrong. when I clap I jear two short clps, but I was sure not to have feedback or anything.

I guess there is some kind of amplification or attenuation going on.

BM should somehow improve this fast, being able to turn off audio or have it follow the video inputs.

2 the web presenter will output 30 fps while i input 25. I don t need 30 but you can not controll a max frame rate.

3 transition is smooth when the inputs have the same framerate. that's ok.

so I hope BM will come with an update soon. for now audio renders this nice box useless.

stefan

Thanks for the update Stefan.
That sounds not so great. Escpecially the audio problems. :(
How does the video looks like in 30p which you ingest with 25p?
Does it looks smooth or is it choppy?
I really can not understand why the box converts a 25p feed to 30p?
Can you not control input framerate in vMix when you add the device?

I can understand that you do not want to spend so much time in this device.
Especially because it is so disappointing with audio.
For me, your current tests were already a big help! A help for the decision to wait a little bit until BMD fixes this issues.
I think the device is still a good idea. But it should work properly.

Thanks for the update Stefan.
That was what I meant and hoped with my question in a previous post:
Because that should be actually a capability of the integrated converter. Good to know and thanks for testing.

bmd just posted an update v 1.1 for the web presenter.

audio quality seems to be fixed, there is no or hardly any interuption during transitions and video transitions seem to be ok.

but issues still remain. main one is that you can not controle what audio to use. any input will be mixed together. this is really a big minus, because there is a little bit latency on the audio, so even when you would input the same audio with the video inputs, there will be some echo that will tender the audio unuseable.

best would be to be able to turn audio on or off of an input or have it follow the inputs. anyway, up to bmd to redesign the way audio inputs are handled.

for now it still is an easy and quick two camera input to vmix, quick web cam output for skype or streaming on a second computer and a small field mixer for small scale productions.

i have used it now for a number of times because it is easy to plug in and use on the fly...

stefan

Why don't you just use vMix call instead of skype? :-) No need for additional computers :-)