Hi

I highly doubt the IP streaming this camera offers is a "standard" protocol. Besides documentation indicates it won't allow FullHD streaming
http://support-vn.canon-...ts/VN/EN/8202661800.html
You are very likely to lose realtime transmission with streaming option to vMix (if ever it can work).

If you need distance go for SDI cable which can be up to 230m (250 yards) when very good quality. 100m is standard distance for SDI.
HDMI cable are very unlikely to work over 15m, sometimes 20m.

Yes indeed

I gave the only doc page from Canon that's talking "technically" about this streaming feature. There are tons of news announcements but :
- no protocol indicated
- no FullHD support
- only VLC can play this stream

I'm not 100% sure. I said "very unlikely"...
I use plenty of cameras, IP or not, including several Canon models.

The XF205 is quite an expensive camera with many professional features, including at first SDI outputs.
Buying this cam to use it for its alleged streaming capacity (and the signal quality loss it implies) is a curious choice imho.

Googling your issue gives very few leads apart from this one:
http://stackoverflow.com...-xf200-camera-using-rtsp

Maybe is this meaningful enough?

If you can do this :



then you can use NDI to ingest the stream into vMix.

Have fun!

DWAM;

Yeah, I think I need to message that person and see what they mean, because I'm having trouble decoding the instructions.

SportsNetUSA.net, the cameras do a lot of things. They can act as FTP servers, allow people to transfer files while the camera is recording, and allow for remote control of the camera. None of which can be done at the same time.

The IP Streaming is new from last summer, which explains why there is so little documentation, especially because it's a firmware update feature. Page 194 of their new manual talks about the new feature, but isn't any more informative:

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/...xf200-xf205-im6-n-en.pdf

I do have a connection with Canon that may help. If I discover a solution, I will definitely post it here.

Ok, see, that's useful information.

I understand that you're saying it shouldn't work based on specs, or that the result won't be good enough.

However, I need to see for myself, because my perspective on what's good enough may be different from yours, and anyway, I want to see it for myself. And given how so many OBS users, for example, use weird window capture work arounds, it's not foreign to me to cobble together something that may not seem to make sense on the face of it.

So...

When I tried what you wrote, things were different, but no successful. Here's my current setup:

Alienware 18 running Windows 10. Hardwired ethernet to router with dynamic IP address set and stable. Using most current version of VLC. IP address 192.168.1.8

Canon camera set to either UDP or RTP streaming. IP address 192.168.1.9

Tell Canon to point at 192.168.1.8 port 5000, video at either 1.5mbps (640x480) or 9mbps (1280x720).

Tell VLC to point variously to:

udp://@192.168.1.9:5000
udp://@192.168.1.9
udp://192.168.1.9:5000
udp://192.168.1.9
rtp://@192.168.1.9:5000
etc

Any RTP or RTSP request gets an error saying unable to connect. UDP connection does not give any errors, unless an invalid port is assigned. However, there is still no video.

Cat 6 cabling to a 100BaseTX router

This shows you don't understand the concept of udp streaming where the source pushes the stream to destination.
I told you to set VLC with udp://@127.0.0.1:5000 (or its own IP address > udp://@192.168.1.8:5000) or simply udp://@5000

Success!

Here's what I have:

In the camera, I needed to set a manual setting, following the instructions in the PDF/JPG I attached, but using a valid IP for my router.

Then, I used udp://@:5000 in VLC Media Player 2.2.4

This gave me a signal in VLC!

Thanks for the help and instruction. Now I will see if I can pipe this to vMix, and decide if it was all worth it. Also need to determine if this can be done with TWO cameras (which is what I ultimately want) or not. But even if just one works, that's one less item I need to buy to get these far away cameras in.

Okay, I have achieved (some) success!

Following the instructions here:

http://forums.vmix.com/d....aspx?g=posts&m=5691

I replaced the file suggested there with the IP stream that I was receiving on VLC from the camera. One thing that stuck with me: in various input instructions on VLC, it shows a list of available streams. I kept missing that the interface has an "OK" button at the bottom of the screen, so I wasted 5 minutes not understanding why the stream I was looking for didn't show up in the list box.

But once I hit OK, it worked!

Now, the problems (which some of you may have anticipated): first, there's no audio. I suspect I can get over that, but actually I don't care because I don't need audio from this camera.
Second, and more importantly, there is a HUGE delay. Like, 4 seconds or so. Not sure I can overcome that, and such a delay wouldn't be acceptable. I imagine there are ways to get around it if I had to, but I'd rather keep audio sync as close as possible.

Still, at least I can see SOMETHING. And the stream appears to be 1280x720. I'm using the 9mbps, so perhaps that's part of the issue. I'll try the 4 and the SD to see how those work.

If you have thoughts about the delay, I'd love to hear them, but at least I've got something to work with now!

Thanks for the help!

Ok, so I am going to look for a forum on here for configuring my system, but yes, it seems like the delay is too much. Going down to 4mbps makes the delay worse for some reason.

I can imagine there's a way to delay the audio to sync (which even with the best setup, I may have to do, if experience is an indication from Blackmagic systems I've used), but then I'd also have to delay any other camera as well, and that does sound like a mess.

If I just needed one camera, though, this would be an option. I hope someone finds this useful!

If you care, what I'm thinking about now is the following:

Starting with vMix 4 camera reference system:

Swap the quad HDMI card for an 8 3G-SDI input card like this one:

http://www.markertek.com...q2hZ-WwLsMppAaAvx38P8HAQ

Then I can run the cables for the Canon cameras, and for my HDMI cams, get these:

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=11749

which will convert the HDMI video to 3G-SDI, which should input into that card.

Assuming vMix is compatible with that card, it actually saves me money, as I was going to get two of the quad cards (the final install will have 6 or 7 cameras).

If you have interest and input into this plan, it's welcome. But I will post elsewhere for full responses.

Thanks again!