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AndrewZarian  
#1 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 10:05:25 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone,

I recently started having an issue with vMix after a video card driver update. I have experienced the same strange problem on two nearly identical PC's that I have.

After a video card driver update (Doesn't matter what version of the driver I update to) vMix doesn't seem to want to load. It freezes and gives me the following error message. The video card I am using is the AMD Radeon R9 280. I am also on Windows 10 anniversary


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I have seen a thread that was somewhat similar to my issue but it did not solve my problem http://forums.vmix.com/d....aspx?g=posts&t=6819
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#2 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 11:39:34 AM(UTC)
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Hi Andrew. Welcome to the vMix Forum.

Perhaps not the best solution, but until the precise fix is shared, you might try a System Restore to an earlier time before the driver update.

As a side note, vMix seems to work best with Nvidia cards GTX 750 or higher. Together with W10A and the right graphics card, vMix uses hardly any CPU for recording MP4s at 1080p.

Glad you are here.

- Tom
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#3 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 1:05:23 PM(UTC)
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Hey Tom,

I started doing a total clean install of the machine. Lets see if this cleans up whatever mess happened.
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#4 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 1:42:06 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

We are seeing some reports over the past couple of days of out of memory errors that have occurred as a result of a recent AMD graphics driver and/or windows update.
We are still researching what might be causing this but rolling back either the graphics driver or the last windows update might help.
Nvidia and Intel graphics are unaffected so it appears to be limited to AMD at this time.

Regards,

Martin
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#5 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 2:12:49 PM(UTC)
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After a clean install vMix is still crashing at start up with the same error code.
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#6 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 2:16:15 PM(UTC)
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Which AMD driver version? Have you tried an old driver such as from a few months back or more?
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#7 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 2:35:52 PM(UTC)
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Im all the way back to May right now. Seems like the last working version was 16.5.2 but that no longer seems to work. If i remove all AMD drivers I can get vMix to start up.
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#8 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 2:55:36 PM(UTC)
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Update: 16.5.1 is the only working version so far. I still have no idea what changed and why non of the other versions seem to be working properly.
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#9 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 7:22:59 PM(UTC)
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Had some reports that 16.7.1 or earlier should resolve the problem.
http://support.amd.com/e...os=Windows%2010%20-%2064

We've had a flood of reports just in the past 48 hours, did AMD do an automatic update 16.10.3?
Could also be an issue in combination with a recent windows update.

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Martin
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#10 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 9:50:36 PM(UTC)
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I have a system working with 16.9.2 on an older AMD card series 7700. O/s Win10 AE. It might be a combination of the driver and the particular card that Andrew has in his boxes.
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#11 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 11:59:02 PM(UTC)
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Windows did a 'forced' update on Windows 10 to 16.6 last week. Seems to have caused this issue for anyone running an older driver. I started first seeing this happen a little over a month ago but didnt have time to troubleshoot it. On Friday evening I had a windows update the driver and it seems to have made things way worse, I couldn't even install 16.5.1

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You have a point here. I am running an AMD R9 280 and can only get it to work with 16.5.1 (I was positive I was on 16.7 before things starting going bad). We have another machine running an AMD R9 380 and that one is on 16.5.2
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 1, 2016 1:48:34 AM(UTC)
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After some in depth testing I have narrowed down the problem to a bug starting with

16.9.1 - (21.19.134.1 in device manager)

With the most recent known working driver being:

16.8.3 - (16.300.2511.1003 in device manager)

The AMD installer doesn't make it easy to install an old driver over the top of a new one, so
fixing this issue usually involves going to device manager and updating the driver manually.

The versions in brackets above are important, if it says 21.x in device manager, then the old driver did not install.
I have submitted a bug report to AMD, but not sure if or when they will fix it.


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#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:59:51 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Martin for testing this and coming up with a work around. I will test this on one of our machines tomorrow. I actually just bought a GTX 1060 since Tom suggested that it works better with vMix. Im working on getting that one to look as good as possible. Noticing some framerate issues. Stated a new thread regarding that

Thanks again
Andrew
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#14 Posted : Friday, November 4, 2016 8:23:52 PM(UTC)
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I was searching for a solution to this issue. I as well was running into the memory issue with the AMD cards. Stupid windows 10 auto-update must have silently installed new drivers. I HATE Windows 10 because of this. For those who wish to permanently turn off Windows 10 updates...

http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-to-prevent-windows-10-from-automatically-downloading-updates/
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#15 Posted : Friday, November 4, 2016 8:33:25 PM(UTC)
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jammerxd wrote:
I was searching for a solution to this issue. I as well was running into the memory issue with the AMD cards. Stupid windows 10 auto-update must have silently installed new drivers. I HATE Windows 10 because of this. For those who wish to permanently turn off Windows 10 updates...

http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-to-prevent-windows-10-from-automatically-downloading-updates/



Hey Jammerxd.

As far as I know this article is outdated and only for windows 10 and not 10.1. A lot changed with Aniversary edition.
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Good to know, is there an updated guide for doing this?
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#17 Posted : Sunday, November 6, 2016 11:44:03 AM(UTC)
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Just ran into this today, and hour before the show.

Thanks for the clues Martin !

Here is a link to the driver that works, I just extracted the file and ran setup as administrator.

https://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/Non-WHQL-Win10-64Bit-Radeon-Software-Crimson-16.8.3-Aug30.exe

AMD page:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-16.8.3-Release-Notes.aspx

Steve
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 8, 2016 2:22:40 PM(UTC)
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@stevespaw

Could not d/l driver from your link. Apparently AMD won't allow a direct link to the d/l. Can you link to the info page for that driver?

- Tom
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 8, 2016 3:29:13 PM(UTC)
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I am using MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card and having the same issues Andrew. I will be checking in for a work around for this problem.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:16:32 PM(UTC)
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stevespaw wrote:
Just ran into this today, and hour before the show.

Thanks for the clues Martin !

Here is a link to the driver that works, I just extracted the file and ran setup as administrator.

https://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/Non-WHQL-Win10-64Bit-Radeon-Software-Crimson-16.8.3-Aug30.exe

AMD page:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-16.8.3-Release-Notes.aspx

Steve




Thanks Steve, after a week of trying various things I finally got this to work. Now to figure out how to keep this from being updated until the issue is resolved. Thanks Again Carl
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