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Matou  
#1 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 2:05:30 PM(UTC)
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Vmix The program offers great opportunities, I have to ask direct with two Sony cameras with firewire output Ilink-1394
You can recommend a laptop that has FireWire input or express card entry who can hold a candle to the Vmix data stream?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:18:41 PM(UTC)
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Dell Latitude 6410 laptops have a Firewire port. After that, Dell Latitudes such as 6430 still have express card slots. I sure some older Think Pads and HP's have Firewire also. However, some older laptops don't have fast enough CPUs to operate vMix properly. The vMix Supported Hardware page has the minimum CPU at a 2Ghz Dual-Core Processor.

Connecting two cameras with Firewire would require "Separate Firewire Card for each camera" as stated on the vMix Supported Hardware page.

What model Sony cameras do you have?
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@ Matou

Highly unlikely that you will find anything recent with FireWire ports, so good luck in your search. My HP Pavilion dv6000 from 2007 has a Firewire port and I added an express card for a second camera, but as SportsNetUSA states, it's Core2 Duo processor and nVidia mobile graphics card along with Vista OS from that era are just not up to the task at keeping resources within optimal performance parameters. Also important to keep in mind is that FireWire adds about a half second of delay and that only one camera per bus is feasible.


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SportsNetUSA.net wrote:
Dell Latitude 6410 laptops have a Firewire port. After that, Dell Latitudes such as 6430 still have express card slots. I sure some older Think Pads and HP's have Firewire also. However, some older laptops don't have fast enough CPUs to operate vMix properly. The vMix Supported Hardware page has the minimum CPU at a 2Ghz Dual-Core Processor.

Connecting two cameras with Firewire would require "Separate Firewire Card for each camera" as stated on the vMix Supported Hardware page.

What model Sony cameras do you have?


I have two Sony cameras: a PMW-EX1 and PMW-ex3.
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With those cameras, why are you considering FireWire?
My understanding is that they both have HD-SDI out.
I would strongly suggest looking for a Laptop with a Thunderbolt port and consider the AJA IO 4K or perhaps other SDI capture dongle options.


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Matou on 10/24/2016(UTC)
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I wasn't familiar with those Sony models. After looking up the specs on them, wholeheartedly agree with IceStream. Use the HD-SDI output!
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First of all, thank you all for your ideas!
Also seen the prices the idea of using SDI seems to me the most correct!
Do you know if UltraStudio 4K 2 - Blackmagic is compatible with Vmix and windows?
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@ Matou

Short answer... YES!
Although the vMix support page may not list every possible capture product, the major brands are generally supported:
http://www.vmix.com/soft.../supported-hardware.aspx
Your options are 'plentiful', do your research well and choose the product or brand that you are most familiar or comfortable with and that best meets your needs and budget.
And then keep us posted as to your progress.


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Matou on 10/25/2016(UTC)
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I'll be blunt: I find it difficult to understand how UltraStudio interfaces with Vmix. Vmix The software recognizes the individual SDI inputs, HDMI, etc. as if they were different video sources? By connecting several cameras on UltraStudio (or similar) Vmix via USB3 port recognizes the different sources that I can mix taking only a USB port of the PC?

I are the beginning and for many the question is obvious but for me it is a new and unexplored way, before you start shopping, I need to understand.
Thank you all for your patience!


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Once you have your drivers for the UltraStudio device installed, vMix will recognize each of the SDI, HDMI inputs (and audio inputs). Same for if you choose the AJA IO 4K that IceStream mentioned. The UltraStudio products and the AJA IO 4K connect with Thunderbolt so you would need a laptop with Thunderbolt.

There used to be a PDF on the vMix site that had some recommended laptops with Thunderbolt. The ASUS Republic of Gamers (ROG) and HP Zbook laptops were listed, and gaming laptops from MSI should work too. Just remember to look closely at the CPU and the graphics adapter that come with any laptop if you want to run vMix. Of course what you can afford to spend is a big factor.

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Matou on 10/26/2016(UTC)
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@ Matou

Once again, short answer to your question is YES!
There are different kinds of "capture" devices (cards, dongles, boxes) some are single source, some are dual source (like the BMD UltraStudio 4K you mention) and some have 4 channel sources (AJA io 4K, BMD Decklink Duo2) or even 8 sources (Decklink Quad2, AJA Corvid 88). For laptops your choices may be more limited as you need to be able to connect it, and things are changing all the time, (i.e. Thunderbolt 1, 2 and 3, USB 3 and c).
I understand how overwhelming it can be at the outset, but I think you are well on your way to finding a solution that will work for you (you are asking all the right questions).
Things to remember about vMix are that it relies heavily on the GPU for managing and switching HD video images much like high end video games, recording and streaming rely heavily on CPU for encoding, and Instant Replay prefers the speed of SSDs for best performance. So all in all, the hardware you need depends to a large degree on what you need vMix to do for you.
Hope that helps some.



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Matou on 10/26/2016(UTC)
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Hello, after reading all this and more, I need a small laptop for direct and local events, where I can record the event and go (when possible in this prehistoric Italy) streaming ...
I had thought of this configuration: UltraStudio 4K - Blackmagic and a laptop ASUS ROG Notebook G752VT. Is there anyone who has a similar configuration and can tell you how it works with Vmix?

Thank you all !
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#14 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2016 11:59:49 AM(UTC)
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I have an ASUS ROG G751JY-DH71 with a Thunderbolt v1 port connected to a Sonnet Echo box with a Magewell 4 port SDI capture card. On a recent job streaming to Youtube at 720P 2500bps it handled 4 X 720P60 inputs flawlessly with overall CPU usage rarely exceeding 25%.
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