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guladig  
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 10:41:47 AM(UTC)
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I've just recently come across vMix and feel it may be ideal for what I would want to do in the near future.

My Requirements:

I have a one day conference event to cover.

two people - one person handling a camera Canon XF300 using the HDMI output.

Other person operating a alienware laptop with HDMI input for the Canon XF300.
vMix software used on the laptop.

Inputs XF300 via HDMI recording at 1280 X 720 - 25fps progressive
master audio input from mixing desk via stereo mini jack into laptop

Powerpoint slides stored on laptop and used as another input.

Complete mix recorded on laptop as 1280 X 720 H264 MP4 file at around 6mbs datarate.
Also output streamed as 720 video to UStream server.

Will the above work using vMix software on a Alienware 13 laptop.

I would need the audio from the camera or live input to be constant even if I select a powerpoint slide as input.
The idea being that the conference video feed is constant so you would always hear the speaker even if a slide is
selected as a input source.

Is all of this possible with the intended spec?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 11:23:05 AM(UTC)
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There would be no issues. However, I did not see what you are using to between your XF300 and the laptop. In a PC you can install capture cards (ie Magewell or Blackmagic pcie card). But on a laptop unless you are using a USB Webcam you have to use something like the Magewell HDMI>USB (http://amzn.com/B00I16VQOY). This Magewell is the only device I would personally recommend to anyone for HDMI>USB. The other users here may have some additional suggestions.

And yes you can use the audio source from the camera, a mixing board, etc, and keep that your master audio no mater what video, images, or powerpoint is playing.

While your setup is a very simple and straight forward setup, you need to install the trial and play with it so you can get familiar with the very basic operaions. Hope this helps.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 11:30:39 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the response.

Yes I have played with the software and like it very much.

I gathered that the Alienware laptops HDMI input would be sufficient
for the purposes I outlined. Am I wrong to assume this?

Otherwise would a Black Magic Intensity?? box be sufficient for this purpose?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:01:12 PM(UTC)
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Looking at the specs for the Alienware 13 the HDMI port is Output from the graphics card not input.

But it has USB 3 SuperSpeed.

You could use the Avermedia Extreme Cap U3 http://avertv.avermedia....aspx?Id=585&device=4

I have used it successfully on Toshiba and ASUS laptops

Or the Magewell dongle as tdurhamjr indicated is another option but I havent used that device before. Someone else may be able to comment on it.

guladig wrote:
Thanks for the response.

Yes I have played with the software and like it very much.

I gathered that the Alienware laptops HDMI input would be sufficient
for the purposes I outlined. Am I wrong to assume this?

Otherwise would a Black Magic Intensity?? box be sufficient for this purpose?

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#5 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:45:10 PM(UTC)
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I agree with tdurhamjr, the Magewell dongle is the easiest way to get HDMI in. Almost guarantee it will work, have tried it in many different PC's with USB3.

To keep the Cameras audio make sure to deselect Auto mixing in the audio settings. See http://www.vmixhd.com/help15/Audio.html for a starter. Have fun!

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#6 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:49:56 PM(UTC)
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guladig wrote:
Thanks for the response.

Yes I have played with the software and like it very much.

I gathered that the Alienware laptops HDMI input would be sufficient
for the purposes I outlined. Am I wrong to assume this?

Otherwise would a Black Magic Intensity?? box be sufficient for this purpose?


That HDMI port is for out only, not in.

Ash recommended the Avermedia CV710 and it is $180 on Amazon. I have the BM Intensity Shuttle and I don't recommend it. (but I do have other BM cards that I used and like alot). I love the Magewell Converters that I linked above and it runs $300 on Amazon. So if the CV710 works great then that may be a good option, especially if this is for a one time event.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2015 6:27:59 PM(UTC)
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I also have a black magic and recommend magewell so much easier i have magewell as well anyone want to buy a BM?
guladig  
#8 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 3:02:50 AM(UTC)
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Magewell sounds very interesting although it has one HDMI input.
Are there devices that support say two HDMI inputs.
Foe example if I wanted to use two cameras in a conference
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#9 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 5:04:52 AM(UTC)
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guladig wrote:
Magewell sounds very interesting although it has one HDMI input.
Are there devices that support say two HDMI inputs.
Foe example if I wanted to use two cameras in a conference

Yes, Magewell XI200XUSB http://www.magewell.com/...cifications.html?lang=en
But its more expensive then "normal" Magewell USB<-HDMI dongle.

I would go for two Magewell dongles.
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#10 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 8:21:24 AM(UTC)
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What would you recommend for a device to connect 6 SDI cameras to a laptop (Asus G750JY). The laptop has 4 USB3.0 ports and a dedicated video card NVidia GeForce GTX980M (if it matters).

Is there a device on the market to accept all 6 SDI inputs and connect to my laptop?

Thanks,

Emil.
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#11 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 8:34:19 AM(UTC)
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Emil,
It is always a good start to search the forum...
In your case for your computer model. Then you might find for example http://forums.vmix.com.a....aspx?g=posts&t=1918
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#12 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 8:53:26 AM(UTC)
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Depending on what you want to do. For example if you want to use the Replay feature then it may not cut it even for 4 inputs on that laptop. Depends on what you are doing. What resolution. Are you streaming , recording, is it fast moving or slow or just people talking.

I have an ASUS 750JZ. The great thing is it has a Thunderbolt 1 port so I have set it up with a Magewell x 4 SDI PCIe in an external box. Does very well for what I do. I can add another card for 8 SDI ports but its probably not going to be pretty. And 8 inputs on 17" screen is getting really crowded, plus other issues like audio, graphics, clips etc. Sure you can add on other screens but its starting to push the system even with 4 SDi inputs running at 720p 50fps. But again what do you want to do? Work that out then work back. Dont forget your bank account either.

bucsatul wrote:
What would you recommend for a device to connect 6 SDI cameras to a laptop (Asus G750JY). The laptop has 4 USB3.0 ports and a dedicated video card NVidia GeForce GTX980M (if it matters).

Is there a device on the market to accept all 6 SDI inputs and connect to my laptop?

Thanks,

Emil.

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#13 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 9:07:32 AM(UTC)
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Ash wrote:
Depending on what you want to do. For example if you want to use the Replay feature then it may not cut it even for 4 inputs on that laptop. Depends on what you are doing. What resolution. Are you streaming , recording, is it fast moving or slow or just people talking.

I have an ASUS 750JZ. The great thing is it has a Thunderbolt 1 port so I have set it up with a Magewell x 4 SDI PCIe in an external box. Does very well for what I do. I can add another card for 8 SDI ports but its probably not going to be pretty. And 8 inputs on 17" screen is getting really crowded, plus other issues like audio, graphics, clips etc. Sure you can add on other screens but its starting to push the system even with 4 SDi inputs running at 720p 50fps. But again what do you want to do? Work that out then work back. Dont forget your bank account either.

bucsatul wrote:
What would you recommend for a device to connect 6 SDI cameras to a laptop (Asus G750JY). The laptop has 4 USB3.0 ports and a dedicated video card NVidia GeForce GTX980M (if it matters).

Is there a device on the market to accept all 6 SDI inputs and connect to my laptop?

Thanks,

Emil.



Hi Ash,

I would like to use the system for InstantReplay mainly, for soccer events. It should be streaming on an external TV screen at 720p50 and offer the replays as they develop. For recording I was thinking to buy the Avermedia video device (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UG1ZK0935&cm_re=avermedia_live_gamer_portable-_-15-100-150-_-Product) to record the video output.
4 SDI inputs should be assigned for Instant Replay and other 2 inputs for live streaming inside the arena.

Do you have some suggestions?
Thanks,

Emil.

I was also looking to find a box to connect to the Thnunderbolt port of the laptop. It could be a solution I guess..
bucsatul  
#14 Posted : Friday, April 3, 2015 9:08:32 AM(UTC)
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richardgatarski wrote:
Emil,
It is always a good start to search the forum...
In your case for your computer model. Then you might find for example http://forums.vmix.com.a....aspx?g=posts&t=1918


Thanks Richard for pointing me to those posts. I've found some interesting stuff there.

Emil.
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