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DeanJohnsonProductions  
#1 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2025 12:00:38 PM(UTC)
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Ive seen issues posted where people out of nowhere couldnt stream anymore without getting this error. I recently bought an unmanaged switch and magically my issue went away. I went back to the managed TP-Link Omada ER605 V2.6. Issue came back. I then tried my TP-Link ax3000 and again I got real-time buffer too full. I went back to my Trendnet TEG-S762 Unmanaged switch and the issue goes away. Also there is no issue plugged straight into the cable modem. I have opened task manager while I stream to see how much data Im uploading. The managed router and switch will not let me stream at 30mbps. The unmanaged switch will. The "real-time buffer too full" error has a direct correlation to managed switches and routers not letting me get to 30mbps. I bounce everywhere between 2 and 15mbps on the managed devices while streaming however my speed test gives me a full 40mbps upload EVERYTIME. There is no speed limit set in the devices. They have stock settings. I am hard wired to each device when tested. What setting in these managed devices could be stopping me from being able to stream? When I turn the stream quality down to 15mps or even 10...still wont send it with the managed devices. Im streaming to youtube if that matters.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2025 7:51:12 AM(UTC)
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You probably ought to be asking the makers of those managed switches why they are capping you. It might be something as simple as needing to turn on QOS for your vMix PC in those switches.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2025 1:32:29 PM(UTC)
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If you have an Omada managed switch, you need to check the port configuration to make sure you have the right port speed, etc. Sounds like vmix is being throttled.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2025 2:29:03 PM(UTC)
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You probably ought to be asking the makers of those managed switches why they are capping you. It might be something as simple as needing to turn on QOS for your vMix PC in those switches.


I should not have to ask the makers of those switches anything. This is not a unicorn 1 off issue. There are several people with this issue who are Vmix customers. If I go places that use a managed router...and I can not stream....then I lose the need to have Vmix bc I no longer have a job. If a major router brand like TP Link is blocking live streaming across all routers...it might be a problem and Vmix needs to figure out how its users can fix that. These routers are all on their default settings. Vmix should know whats wrong and be able to copy and paste how I can fix the issue. I could go on a location that has an IT department....and not be able to stream. I need to be able to tell whoever has access to the router...how to fix it.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2025 9:02:40 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Roy Sinclair Go to Quoted Post

You probably ought to be asking the makers of those managed switches why they are capping you. It might be something as simple as needing to turn on QOS for your vMix PC in those switches.


I should not have to ask the makers of those switches anything. This is not a unicorn 1 off issue. There are several people with this issue who are Vmix customers. If I go places that use a managed router...and I can not stream....then I lose the need to have Vmix bc I no longer have a job. If a major router brand like TP Link is blocking live streaming across all routers...it might be a problem and Vmix needs to figure out how its users can fix that. These routers are all on their default settings. Vmix should know whats wrong and be able to copy and paste how I can fix the issue. I could go on a location that has an IT department....and not be able to stream. I need to be able to tell whoever has access to the router...how to fix it.


Of course you shouldn't have to do it.

A managed router ought to be able to note the flags in the vMIX IP data stream noting time sensitive content and properly prioritize it. But obviously some do not or they may have default limits set for new equipment added to their network so you need to make sure your equipment is given a higher default by communicating with the network people for the site you are at so they'll be able to make the changes required to let your stream work and even ask them what they have that is limiting it and what they have to change. And that is something you actually should be doing.

You could even be so kind as to post back here with what you learned so the next poor soul trying to figure out the same problem stands a greater chance of finding the answer instead of having to play hunt the Wumpus like you've been forced to do.

Anyhow, best of luck getting this figured out, it can be so frustrating to have stuff like this happening.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2025 9:23:13 AM(UTC)
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Interesting. I have an Omada ER605 sitting in a box around here somewhere. I'll try to dig it out and do some testing with it, to see if I can replicate the OP's symptoms.

Edit: never mind. I thought I had an extra one, but all of my ER605's are in use at customer sites.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2025 9:39:42 AM(UTC)
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I just noticed something strange about the OP's post.

Both of the devices he was having problems with, aren't switches, but are routers (that also have a built-in switch). When he replaced that with a standalone switch the problem went away. I would suspect the problem was not with managed vs. unmanaged, but rather using a router vs. a standalone switch.

Now we all go through multiple routers to reach the destination, so I'm not saying that the simple act of using a router is the culprit. But there does seem to be something going on with the OP's network.

DeanJohnsonProductions, do you also have issues when streaming OBS with similar settings as vMix, when using the routers?
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Originally Posted by: kross Go to Quoted Post
I just noticed something strange about the OP's post.

Both of the devices he was having problems with, aren't switches, but are routers (that also have a built-in switch). When he replaced that with a standalone switch the problem went away. I would suspect the problem was not with managed vs. unmanaged, but rather using a router vs. a standalone switch.

Now we all go through multiple routers to reach the destination, so I'm not saying that the simple act of using a router is the culprit. But there does seem to be something going on with the OP's network.

DeanJohnsonProductions, do you also have issues when streaming OBS with similar settings as vMix, when using the routers?


Good point, it may mean that he is the one who needs to be checking the settings in his ROUTERs because they are his and don't belong to the network he is connecting to. Definitely needs to be sure they are acting as switches if they provide that option.

Hopefully, he gets it figured out.
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#9 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2025 8:08:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Roy Sinclair Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kross Go to Quoted Post
I just noticed something strange about the OP's post.

Both of the devices he was having problems with, aren't switches, but are routers (that also have a built-in switch). When he replaced that with a standalone switch the problem went away. I would suspect the problem was not with managed vs. unmanaged, but rather using a router vs. a standalone switch.

Now we all go through multiple routers to reach the destination, so I'm not saying that the simple act of using a router is the culprit. But there does seem to be something going on with the OP's network.

DeanJohnsonProductions, do you also have issues when streaming OBS with similar settings as vMix, when using the routers?


Good point, it may mean that he is the one who needs to be checking the settings in his ROUTERs because they are his and don't belong to the network he is connecting to. Definitely needs to be sure they are acting as switches if they provide that option.

Hopefully, he gets it figured out.


Welcome to the wonderful world of networking. Lots to learn, even more things to go wrong. When talking to the on site IT people, ask them friendly to:

1. Provide enough bandwidth for your upstream stream but also downstream traffic.
2. Deactive all IDS systems, content filters etc.
3. Deactive all SSL breakup units in the network path.
4. Avoid any bandwith throttling in sitwches and routers.
4. Basically give you a direct internet access with nothing in between.

Things for you to check:

1. Is there enuogh bandwidth on site? Check this before setting up there.
2. Are you going over business fiber, copper DSL or even mobile networks?
3. If you are on mobile, try to avoid RTMP and go with SRT.
4. By all means make sure you are streaming with constant bitrate (CBR). Be sure to check this, I think it is not activated by default.
6. Set your bitrate to 60-80% of the available link bandwidth. (Check this with a Speed Test

Make sure you gain some network knowledge or have somebody to help you. Things are getting more and more complex.

Good luck,

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