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First of all I want to say hello to you all, I just signed up to the Forum. I'll start by saying that I've read a lot but I'm still very confused and for this reason I explicitly ask for help.
So far I have tried to recycle the hardware I own and buy (budget permitting) what I need. I need to setup a 6-camera SDI vmix system (Sony Fs5) to stream to YouTube at 1080 P25.
As for the acquisition I have a Sonnettech Echo express SE II (thunderbolt 2) with a Blackmagic decklink quad and a Blackmagic decklink duo 2 inside.
So far I've been playing around using a 2013 Macbook Pro with Bootcamp and Windows 10 + vmix installed as a computer. The computer is equipped with an Intel i7 quadcore and an NVIDIA 750M if I remember correctly. The performance with 4 cameras was sufficient but the computer was too old and no longer reliable. For this reason I wanted to switch to a native Windows PC. I would prefer a Notebook for portability reasons but, even reading a lot online and here on the forum I haven't found a definitive answer. I would like a Dell Precision because I trust the brand which is very widespread and serious. However, I don't know how to choose the features I need on the used market. I imagine that the minimum essential is an i7 but perhaps an i9 is better, as regards the NVIDIA card I really don't know because I'm very confused. What I need to get is listed below:
1) Mix and cut with 6 SDI camera at 1080 25p
2) Streaming on youtube at 1080 25p
3) Output a program signal using hdmi output (embedded on the computer or using a free decklink output converted sdi->hdmi)
4) Record the Program on the internel SSD
that is the minimum the computer must do.
IF THE computer is capable i like also to record all the camera on the internal ssd but i have read that is cpu intensive? gpu intensive? boh.
thanks for tour reply
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What about a Dell Precision 3541 ?
intel i7 9850H Quadro P620 4GB
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@ Alessandro B The vMix Reference Systems are the best guide for knowing the type of computer to use with vMix: - https://www.vmix.com/pro...x-reference-systems.aspxThe System Requirements for vMix Instant Replay are also a good supplement as a guide for what is needed or recommended in higher end systems to use that feature effectively: - https://www.vmix.com/hel.../SystemRequirements.htmlGiven that, the Dell Precision 3541 you list is a little on the weak side, the i7 9850H CPU only has 6 cores @ 2.60GHz and the Quadro P620 has fewer CUDA Cores (512) than a GeForce GTX 1050 (640) which is the base minimum you will want for a GPU (as a comparison, the GeForce RTX 4080 Super in the Obsidian Reference System has 10,240 CUDA Cores). Ice
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Originally Posted by: IceStream  @ Alessandro B The vMix Reference Systems are the best guide for knowing the type of computer to use with vMix: - https://www.vmix.com/pro...x-reference-systems.aspxThe System Requirements for vMix Instant Replay are also a good supplement as a guide for what is needed or recommended in higher end systems to use that feature effectively: - https://www.vmix.com/hel.../SystemRequirements.htmlGiven that, the Dell Precision 3541 you list is a little on the weak side, the i7 9850H CPU only has 6 cores @ 2.60GHz and the Quadro P620 has fewer CUDA Cores (512) than a GeForce GTX 1050 (640) which is the base minimum you will want for a GPU (as a comparison, the GeForce RTX 4080 Super in the Obsidian Reference System has 10,240 CUDA Cores). Ice First thanks for you reply and your time. I will see the video, thanks. i let you know if i have some other doubt ok? Thanks for now
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Hi, given the need, a Blackmagic ATEM SDI Extreme ISO that outputs on MacBook and Sonnet/BMD
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Originally Posted by: Kayo33  Hi, given the need, a Blackmagic ATEM SDI Extreme ISO that outputs on MacBook and Sonnet/BMD Macbook is not realiable, the system MUST be totally stable, for that reason i’m looking for a used precision. If someone want to suggest me a precise model i will be greateful.
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Originally Posted by: IceStream  @ Alessandro B The vMix Reference Systems are the best guide for knowing the type of computer to use with vMix: - https://www.vmix.com/pro...x-reference-systems.aspxThe System Requirements for vMix Instant Replay are also a good supplement as a guide for what is needed or recommended in higher end systems to use that feature effectively: - https://www.vmix.com/hel.../SystemRequirements.htmlGiven that, the Dell Precision 3541 you list is a little on the weak side, the i7 9850H CPU only has 6 cores @ 2.60GHz and the Quadro P620 has fewer CUDA Cores (512) than a GeForce GTX 1050 (640) which is the base minimum you will want for a GPU (as a comparison, the GeForce RTX 4080 Super in the Obsidian Reference System has 10,240 CUDA Cores). The macbook i have used since now have a 750M that have 385 cufa core e not work bad… cuda core is the only meter for know if the GPU is capable for vmix? Ice
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Macbook is not reliable with more 4 cameras, but with an Atem there is only one input (Atem PGM) for the Macbook.
1) Mix and cut with 6 SDI camera at 1080 25p = atem
2) Streaming on youtube at 1080 25p = macbook/vmix
3) Output a program signal using hdmi output (embedded on the computer or using a free decklink output converted sdi->hdmi) = clean output pgm atem via splitter or final pgm via output bmd/duo 2
4) Record the Program on the internel SSD = rec iso atem or rec macbook/vmix
IF THE computer is capable i like also to record all the camera on the internal ssd = rec iso atem
otherwise laptop with i9 11 or 12th gen + rtx 3070ti minimum with thunderbolt port
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Personal opinion. If you are a one man show production for everything like camera cuts,sound,graphics,play video etc, vmix is more convienent to work compared to have a video mixer,a sound mixer,another pc come in to atem to play videos etc. This way i did it for about 20 years and 3,5 years im on vmix everything side and there is no return to the other way Beyond this,if i would need portabillity i would go in desktop pc with case wheels like some i have seen in the known vmix fb groups
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Originally Posted by: Kayo33  Macbook is not reliable with more 4 cameras, but with an Atem there is only one input (Atem PGM) for the Macbook.
1) Mix and cut with 6 SDI camera at 1080 25p = atem
2) Streaming on youtube at 1080 25p = macbook/vmix
3) Output a program signal using hdmi output (embedded on the computer or using a free decklink output converted sdi->hdmi) = clean output pgm atem via splitter or final pgm via output bmd/duo 2
4) Record the Program on the internel SSD = rec iso atem or rec macbook/vmix
IF THE computer is capable i like also to record all the camera on the internal ssd = rec iso atem
otherwise laptop with i9 11 or 12th gen + rtx 3070ti minimum with thunderbolt port Thanks, I have an atem and I am able to design what you kindly described but I wanted to simplify the equipment and at the same time add features that are impossible with the Atem alone. Regarding the minimum PC, I can assure you that I used my Macbook Pro 15” Late 2013 with i7 quad core and nvidia 750M with 4 cameras without too many power problems. I would like to get a PC to use it natively and have more power. I just can't size the necessary power of the video card. Coming from the MAC world I don't understand if the number of CUDA CORE is a sufficient parameter to compare the cards installed in laptops or not. So I “thought” of two possible systems to buy: 1) Use of 6 cameras via SDI (decklink) and maybe others via srt with recordings only of the program 2) That does the same things as 1 but also records every incoming input That's why I was asking for a numerical value to understand which cpu and one (for example the cuda cores?) for the gpu. You kindly answered me above but I'm confused because you recommended me a much more powerful computer than mine to do something that mine already does but in an unreliable way
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Originally Posted by: nikosman88  Personal opinion. If you are a one man show production for everything like camera cuts,sound,graphics,play video etc, vmix is more convienent to work compared to have a video mixer,a sound mixer,another pc come in to atem to play videos etc. This way i did it for about 20 years and 3,5 years im on vmix everything side and there is no return to the other way Beyond this,if i would need portabillity i would go in desktop pc with case wheels like some i have seen in the known vmix fb groups Yes, let's say you hit the target. Maybe I won't be alone all the time, but the convenience of having all the possible inputs in a machine is priceless. But you recommend a desktop that is not very suitable for a “one man director” perspective. I think that for my use there is a suitable laptop, considering that I now use 4 cameras with a macbook pro late 2013 that doesn't have much power. Perhaps the only thing that is out of reach for notebooks is recording individual camera streams? But for that I could manage by recording directly into the camera
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Originally Posted by: Alessandro B  to do something that mine already does but in an unreliable way
This is the difference between the right specs machine and the simply work machine! If you need a laptop to work as it should work and know that is reliable most of the time, see something that vmix team suggests if you like simply to work there are many options. The pro user and the amateur user is the difference. You have to decide in which side you need to are. And decide your budget. Yes to be able to multirecord/iso your cameras you need a powerfull enough system. Also i see you say that you have a sonnet enclosure. To be able to use it you need a laptop with thunderbolt port. And the low-mi end laptops doesnt have this kind of port A good mid to high end laptop with nvdia card like 30x series or higher should be able to handle 3-4 cameras in a usb3 port with a good usb hub and cheap uvc mjpeg compression format hdmi to usb capture cards. Is this proffesional? Of course not
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Originally Posted by: nikosman88  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B  to do something that mine already does but in an unreliable way
This is the difference between the right specs machine and the simply work machine! If you need a laptop to work as it should work and know that is reliable most of the time, see something that vmix team suggests if you like simply to work there are many options. The pro user and the amateur user is the difference. You have to decide in which side you need to are. And decide your budget. Yes to be able to multirecord/iso your cameras you need a powerfull enough system. Also i see you say that you have a sonnet enclosure. To be able to use it you need a laptop with thunderbolt port. And the low-mi end laptops doesnt have this kind of port A good mid to high end laptop with nvdia card like 30x series or higher should be able to handle 3-4 cameras in a usb3 port with a good usb hub and cheap uvc mjpeg compression format hdmi to usb capture cards. Is this proffesional? Of course not i'm not an amateur, i already have two 8 channel mixer from blackmagic, one 8ch HDMI and one 8ch SDI 4k. But i cannot buy everithing top of the line of every single aspect, and the fact that vmix (and all the system that rotate around it) is modular let me buy some hardware and improve and invest piece by piece by piece. My intent is to buy a laptop tailored on my exact needs (or a little, but little more) and not waste all the budget, so first i need to understand why a specific graaphic card is powerful enough, if a laptop can be ok, (200 cuda core every input for example?) if i use a sonnet enclosure is ok and his limit, instead ob buy a full atx mainboard and put all my card inside the pciex slot, but that sacrify deeply the portability for example. i know that if i buy a 5k€ notebook probably i will have a powerful enough computer but.. i not want for that, i write from a macbook pro 16" that i pay 5k€ 2 years ago, i'm not an amateur come on.
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Originally Posted by: Alessandro B  Originally Posted by: nikosman88  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B  to do something that mine already does but in an unreliable way
This is the difference between the right specs machine and the simply work machine! If you need a laptop to work as it should work and know that is reliable most of the time, see something that vmix team suggests if you like simply to work there are many options. The pro user and the amateur user is the difference. You have to decide in which side you need to are. And decide your budget. Yes to be able to multirecord/iso your cameras you need a powerfull enough system. Also i see you say that you have a sonnet enclosure. To be able to use it you need a laptop with thunderbolt port. And the low-mi end laptops doesnt have this kind of port A good mid to high end laptop with nvdia card like 30x series or higher should be able to handle 3-4 cameras in a usb3 port with a good usb hub and cheap uvc mjpeg compression format hdmi to usb capture cards. Is this proffesional? Of course not i'm not an amateur, i already have two 8 channel mixer from blackmagic, one 8ch HDMI and one 8ch SDI 4k. But i cannot buy everithing top of the line of every single aspect, and the fact that vmix (and all the system that rotate around it) is modular let me buy some hardware and improve and invest piece by piece by piece. My intent is to buy a laptop tailored on my exact needs (or a little, but little more) and not waste all the budget, so first i need to understand why a specific graaphic card is powerful enough, if a laptop can be ok, (200 cuda core every input for example?) if i use a sonnet enclosure is ok and his limit, instead ob buy a full atx mainboard and put all my card inside the pciex slot, but that sacrify deeply the portability for example. i know that if i buy a 5k€ notebook probably i will have a powerful enough computer but.. i not want for that, i write from a macbook pro 16" that i pay 5k€ 2 years ago, i'm not an amateur come on. My message i believe has been mis-understand. Personally even if i work 25 years in a tv station im amateur compared to big tv stations coleauges and our machines are crap compared to them. To our knowledge of this,because we dont have the same budget so i can understand what means "my ryzen 5 1600 pc (this was my first vmix pc like your mac is your vmix pc now) with 1050 can do 4 cameras,oh i can add a fifth camera and then oh ok more graphics etc" and then booom. And why this do 4 cameras and why must i pay 2000$ for a better and reliable pc?. Only your 8 channel bmd mixer maybe it costs more than our vmix pc (but it is build based on what vmix team said for 4 cameras production at 2021 and it is stable and reliable) including the vmix license! Beyond this,when vmix team in a high end specs laptop-reference connects 4 camera sdi and not 6-8 it means that if you need a good production,you have to follow their line. You can send them a message to ask about your specific needs Personally l learned by the "hard way" that minimum specs are exist for some reason.
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Originally Posted by: Alessandro B 
You kindly answered me above but I'm confused because you recommended me a much more powerful computer than mine to do something that mine already does but in an unreliable way
Vmix improvements and feature additions require more PC resources each time, so even with a used one, don't aim too low to avoid having to buy another PC in two years. Intel 11th gen, 12th gen, and 13th gen (H version only) natively support Thunderbolt, which is a plus. Otherwise, to stick with your idea, I would aim for a CPU at least twice as powerful as the MacBook in benchmarks. And for the GPU, at least 4x more in CUDA cores, double video memory, and bandwidth. https://www.techpowerup....cs/geforce-gt-750m.c2224https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/
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Originally Posted by: Alessandro B 
As for the acquisition I have a Sonnettech Echo express SE II (thunderbolt 2) with a Blackmagic decklink quad and a Blackmagic decklink duo 2 inside.
It won't work. Sonnettech Echo Express SE II Thunderbolt is 20 Gbps. BM Decklink Quad2 requires 32 Gbps. The Duo2 requires 16 Gbps. Electrically, the two PCIE slots on the Sonnettech Echo are PCIE 2.0 x4. Quad2 requires PCI 2.0 x8 Only one Decklink Duo2 and one Decklink Mini Recorder HD. Five 3G 60P HD inputs in total. It is true that at 1.5G HD 25P, two Decklink Duo2 units could be used for a total of 8 inputs. It would be worth testing.
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Originally Posted by: Kayo33  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B 
You kindly answered me above but I'm confused because you recommended me a much more powerful computer than mine to do something that mine already does but in an unreliable way
Vmix improvements and feature additions require more PC resources each time, so even with a used one, don't aim too low to avoid having to buy another PC in two years. Intel 11th gen, 12th gen, and 13th gen (H version only) natively support Thunderbolt, which is a plus. Otherwise, to stick with your idea, I would aim for a CPU at least twice as powerful as the MacBook in benchmarks. And for the GPU, at least 4x more in CUDA cores, double video memory, and bandwidth. https://www.techpowerup....cs/geforce-gt-750m.c2224https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ Very interesting information thanks, so you mean to tell me that to do the same things I need a much more powerful computer? Even without using particular functions that maybe I have never used in the past? Actually I could also use them in the future.. but I'm here to understand once and for all how to size a computer to my needs.
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Originally Posted by: Xavi137  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B 
As for the acquisition I have a Sonnettech Echo express SE II (thunderbolt 2) with a Blackmagic decklink quad and a Blackmagic decklink duo 2 inside.
It won't work. Sonnettech Echo Express SE II Thunderbolt is 20 Gbps. BM Decklink Quad2 requires 32 Gbps. The Duo2 requires 16 Gbps. Electrically, the two PCIE slots on the Sonnettech Echo are PCIE 2.0 x4. Quad2 requires PCI 2.0 x8 Only one Decklink Duo2 and one Decklink Mini Recorder HD. Five 3G 60P HD inputs in total. It is true that at 1.5G HD 25P, two Decklink Duo2 units could be used for a total of 8 inputs. It would be worth testing. THANK YOU! you were invaluable, you anticipated questions that I would have asked later!!! I have the Decklink QUAD and not the QUAD 2 but the discussion is useful to make me understand once and for all how external thunderbolt boxes work 100%. but if the Decklink DUO 2 (I have one) requires 16Gbps and the TH2 connection only guarantees 20, how can 2 decklik DUO 2 work inside the sonnet TH2? How do you know if they work? Does it see all 8 inputs and sometimes lose frames or does the decklink card disable some inputs? My sonnet has 2 slots and one mechanically is even 16x so the Decklink QUAD 2 could be inserted without problems, but what would happen? Would Windows only see 4 inputs? Would the card disable 4? Would the DEsktop video drivers completely disable the card and I wouldn't even see it in the device list? Or would I see all 8 in/out but it would work with some noticeable drops? THANKS
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Originally Posted by: Alessandro B  Originally Posted by: Xavi137  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B 
As for the acquisition I have a Sonnettech Echo express SE II (thunderbolt 2) with a Blackmagic decklink quad and a Blackmagic decklink duo 2 inside.
It won't work. Sonnettech Echo Express SE II Thunderbolt is 20 Gbps. BM Decklink Quad2 requires 32 Gbps. The Duo2 requires 16 Gbps. Electrically, the two PCIE slots on the Sonnettech Echo are PCIE 2.0 x4. Quad2 requires PCI 2.0 x8 Only one Decklink Duo2 and one Decklink Mini Recorder HD. Five 3G 60P HD inputs in total. It is true that at 1.5G HD 25P, two Decklink Duo2 units could be used for a total of 8 inputs. It would be worth testing. THANK YOU! you were invaluable, you anticipated questions that I would have asked later!!! I have the Decklink QUAD and not the QUAD 2 but the discussion is useful to make me understand once and for all how external thunderbolt boxes work 100%. but if the Decklink DUO 2 (I have one) requires 16Gbps and the TH2 connection only guarantees 20, how can 2 decklik DUO 2 work inside the sonnet TH2? How do you know if they work? Does it see all 8 inputs and sometimes lose frames or does the decklink card disable some inputs? My sonnet has 2 slots and one mechanically is even 16x so the Decklink QUAD 2 could be inserted without problems, but what would happen? Would Windows only see 4 inputs? Would the card disable 4? Would the DEsktop video drivers completely disable the card and I wouldn't even see it in the device list? Or would I see all 8 in/out but it would work with some noticeable drops? THANKS It has to do with bandwidth required. If your incoming signal is 1080 50i/60i/25p or 720 50p it will use 1,5gpbs per port. If your signal is 1080 50p it will use 3gbps so for 4 cameras you need 12gbps bandwidth to be used. Also your quad card is like this? https://www.ebay.com/itm...D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5bf27-0ZQ if yes this is the 1st gen of bmd quad cards that it works in pci 4x slot and the maximum resolution can do is 1080 p25/p30 so it is 4x1.5gbps bandwidth
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Originally Posted by: nikosman88  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B  Originally Posted by: Xavi137  Originally Posted by: Alessandro B 
As for the acquisition I have a Sonnettech Echo express SE II (thunderbolt 2) with a Blackmagic decklink quad and a Blackmagic decklink duo 2 inside.
It won't work. Sonnettech Echo Express SE II Thunderbolt is 20 Gbps. BM Decklink Quad2 requires 32 Gbps. The Duo2 requires 16 Gbps. Electrically, the two PCIE slots on the Sonnettech Echo are PCIE 2.0 x4. Quad2 requires PCI 2.0 x8 Only one Decklink Duo2 and one Decklink Mini Recorder HD. Five 3G 60P HD inputs in total. It is true that at 1.5G HD 25P, two Decklink Duo2 units could be used for a total of 8 inputs. It would be worth testing. THANK YOU! you were invaluable, you anticipated questions that I would have asked later!!! I have the Decklink QUAD and not the QUAD 2 but the discussion is useful to make me understand once and for all how external thunderbolt boxes work 100%. but if the Decklink DUO 2 (I have one) requires 16Gbps and the TH2 connection only guarantees 20, how can 2 decklik DUO 2 work inside the sonnet TH2? How do you know if they work? Does it see all 8 inputs and sometimes lose frames or does the decklink card disable some inputs? My sonnet has 2 slots and one mechanically is even 16x so the Decklink QUAD 2 could be inserted without problems, but what would happen? Would Windows only see 4 inputs? Would the card disable 4? Would the DEsktop video drivers completely disable the card and I wouldn't even see it in the device list? Or would I see all 8 in/out but it would work with some noticeable drops? THANKS It has to do with bandwidth required. If your incoming signal is 1080 50i/60i/25p or 720 50p it will use 1,5gpbs per port. If your signal is 1080 50p it will use 3gbps so for 4 cameras you need 12gbps bandwidth to be used. Also your quad card is like this? https://www.ebay.com/itm...D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5bf27-0ZQ if yes this is the 1st gen of bmd quad cards that it works in pci 4x slot and the maximum resolution can do is 1080 p25/p30 so it is 4x1.5gbps bandwidth Yes my card is the first generation, 4in OR 4 out instead of 8in OR 8 out. I always use 1080 P25. even a Deklink QUAD 2 can work in a 4x slot and thinderbolth 2 IF ALLA THE INPUT are 1080P25 or it must require a 8x slot even for switch on?
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