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richardgatarski  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:39:25 AM(UTC)
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I got an idea that might be too vague for a feature request. Instead I start with a discussion to share thoughts and ideas.

TV/video programs increasingly use transitions where the camera window sort of zooms out and becomes a smaller part of the new video window. Compare the rough mockup illustration below, where the left part shows a fullscreen input before the transition, and the right part after. In the "after" the original video is PiP above a background full screen input image (sailboat and orange lines) next to another PiP input (vMix screen grab).

I thought that a "Multizoom transition" could figure out if Output contains inputs that also exists in Preview (current inputs). Then start by a Cut to all other inputs (next), followed by: for each of the "current" inputs calculate their old and new positions, and during the specified transition time zoom/move between these positions.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:45:48 AM(UTC)
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Nice idea. Gets my vote.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:30:17 AM(UTC)
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If I understand you correctly, that capability is already in vMix.

Set up say overlay 1 as a picture in picture overlay with desired transition effect.
When you left click the overlay, it will zoom in as the picture in picture overlay you setup.
now, if you right click the same overlay, it will zoom to full screen.

If you right click the overlay again, it will return to the picture in picture.
then left click again, and it will exit the overlay.

while in full screen mode, you can left click and it will exit also.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:08:41 PM(UTC)
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@coskel22 thanks for the support (but not ready for a vote yet, has to be a feature request first)

@madness thanks, it's close - but not the cigar I am after. The "Picture In Picture Zoom" (right clicking on an overlay button) was a new lesson for me. Actually, it is exactly that type of zoom I am after. The current Zoom transition zooms from the Output's center, not the center of the PiP being zoomed (afaik).

But I don't want to use overlays for this. First, because I need the overlay channels for other things. Second, because such transitions would require multiple steps (eg including a new background before overlay is applied). Third, I also foresee more creative uses where you can simultaneously zoom Multi Views (ie zoom is being applied to more than one object in the screen).
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:59:12 PM(UTC)
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richardgatarski wrote:
@coskel22 thanks for the support (but not ready for a vote yet, has to be a feature request first)

@madness thanks, it's close - but not the cigar I am after. The "Picture In Picture Zoom" (right clicking on an overlay button) was a new lesson for me. Actually, it is exactly that type of zoom I am after. The current Zoom transition zooms from the Output's center, not the center of the PiP being zoomed (afaik).

But I don't want to use overlays for this. First, because I need the overlay channels for other things. Second, because such transitions would require multiple steps (eg including a new background before overlay is applied). Third, I also foresee more creative uses where you can simultaneously zoom Multi Views (ie zoom is being applied to more than one object in the screen).


I am equally in support of Richards request...
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richardgatarski  
#6 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 2:36:47 PM(UTC)
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joe1378 just posted a similar thing I am asking for, but implemented as a virtual set. Check it out!

Still, I think a Multizoom effect would be ground breaking for this kind of video mizers, and far easier for us users (but maybe extremely more difficult for Martin to implement).
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#7 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 6:51:39 PM(UTC)
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Hey Richard!

I've been quite interested in how these VirtualSets and what they can be used for myself, and I have begun experimenting a little, taking some notes here and there.

This is a part of my development team's Google Drive which accessible here:

https://drive.google.com...FNDk1Q2c&usp=sharing

I cannot entirely understand what effect you are looking for in the last part of the original post, but I'm pretty sure that we can work out something that doesn't require an overlay etc.

Hope to see some good input and discussion around this.


Cheers,
Håvard
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joe1378  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:17:57 PM(UTC)
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I think that richardgatarski refers to this effect with wirecast.
http://forums.vmix.com.a....aspx?g=posts&t=2341


I made a video with that effect in wirecast.



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richardgatarski  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:17:14 PM(UTC)
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Håvard, sounds really interesting. Will check it out later on, I have too much on my mind right now...

Joe1378, thanks again. Yes, static background is one important thing. Later I will look into how Wirecast does it.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:11:33 PM(UTC)
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For those of you who still do not understand what I would like to do, here is an example from European Athletics Championships 2014. I ripped it off Swedish TV4's production. Often TV4 do this video combo with three cameras, but in the clip there are only two. A fantastic way to cover many parallell actions! (Sorry, I ruined the aspect ratio - but you get the point.

Password "multizoom", and I will remove the clip in about a week from now.
https://vimeo.com/103361617
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garci66  
#11 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:45:57 PM(UTC)
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That would be great indeed! Gets my vote as well!
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richardgatarski  
#12 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2014 3:28:29 AM(UTC)
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Adobe's New World Tour 2014 is livecasting from Stockholm today (now 9:00 CEST)
http://www.adobe.com/se/...atenowworldtour.html#cta

We did not get the live production, but the company that did are using multzoom.
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