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kane  
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:11:28 AM(UTC)
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New version of NDI® Tools for Windows is available. The big enhancement is 'NDI Studio Monitor' which offers audio meters, alpha channel support, on screen graticules and the ability to force low bandwidth mode among other new features.

https://www.newtek.com/ndi/tools/

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#2 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 6:27:50 AM(UTC)
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NDI Camera stream uses 32mb/s , not announced 10, does it need to upgrade?
NDI Access manager doesn't open. I tried several times.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:29:08 AM(UTC)
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You are talking about NDI Camera for iPhone/Android? That is NDI (not NDI-NX), so it will be using higher bandwidth. I'm not sure if iPhone or Android devices have what is needed to create NDI-HX, it does require specific hardware capabilities.

I just tried Access Manager and am having the same issue. I'll bug it. Thanks.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:01:01 AM(UTC)
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Hi Kane,

So to clarify is NDI Tools 3.0 the new (NDI-NX or just normal NDI?
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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:08:53 PM(UTC)
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kane wrote:
New version of NDI® Tools for Windows is available. The big enhancement is 'NDI Studio Monitor' which offers audio meters, alpha channel support, on screen graticules and the ability to force low bandwidth mode among other new features.

https://www.newtek.com/ndi/tools/

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Will the NDI tools or the Connect software let us choose betwin the Full NDI and the NDI HX to send to the network.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:59:43 PM(UTC)
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Len56 wrote:
So to clarify is NDI Tools 3.0 the new (NDI-NX or just normal NDI?

As I understand it, it's not a case of "either/or" but "both". NDI v3.0 adds support for NDI-HX, but doesn't change how existing software works, so if an app sends video data via regular NDI compression then that's now it will continue to work. But now there's an opportunity for developers to support NDI-HX as well (if they choose to do so). And the NDI v3.0 Tools, like the Studio Monitor, will display low-bitrate NDI-HX encoded video as well as regular higher-bitrate NDI streams.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 6:54:25 PM(UTC)
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zenvideo wrote:
Len56 wrote:
So to clarify is NDI Tools 3.0 the new (NDI-NX or just normal NDI?

As I understand it, it's not a case of "either/or" but "both". NDI v3.0 adds support for NDI-HX, but doesn't change how existing software works, so if an app sends video data via regular NDI compression then that's now it will continue to work. But now there's an opportunity for developers to support NDI-HX as well (if they choose to do so). And the NDI v3.0 Tools, like the Studio Monitor, will display low-bitrate NDI-HX encoded video as well as regular higher-bitrate NDI streams.


Basically, yes. NDI® 3.0 supports NDI|HX, but will not change how any existing applications send NDI. As I understand NDI|HX is designed for hardware devices, you will not see software sending it, but it will receive it.

By the way, the NDI® SDK 3.0 was just released today as well.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:08:09 PM(UTC)
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NDI 3.0 is a really exciting update - Multicast, new NDI Studio Monitor, easy device configuration and accurate timing across devices just to highlight a few really useful features!

BirdDog will fully support NDI 3.0 in terms of all the protocol features applicable to a camera mountable device. We won’t at this stage be supporting NDI HX, rather we produce higher-bitrate, lower compression, ultra low latency NDI. We will be rolling out the new NDI 3.0 features over our next few firmware updates during August and September.

NDI 3.0 adds a lot of capabilities that go way beyond what is currently being used in a production IP workflow and over the coming months there will be some really exciting new workflows become apparent.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:27:40 PM(UTC)
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kane wrote:
zenvideo wrote:
Len56 wrote:
So to clarify is NDI Tools 3.0 the new (NDI-NX or just normal NDI?

As I understand it, it's not a case of "either/or" but "both". NDI v3.0 adds support for NDI-HX, but doesn't change how existing software works, so if an app sends video data via regular NDI compression then that's now it will continue to work. But now there's an opportunity for developers to support NDI-HX as well (if they choose to do so). And the NDI v3.0 Tools, like the Studio Monitor, will display low-bitrate NDI-HX encoded video as well as regular higher-bitrate NDI streams.


Basically, yes. NDI® 3.0 supports NDI|HX, but will not change how any existing applications send NDI. As I understand NDI|HX is designed for hardware devices, you will not see software sending it, but it will receive it.

By the way, the NDI® SDK 3.0 was just released today as well.

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Hi Kane, any changes to Connect software with release of the NDI 3?
kane  
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:38:32 PM(UTC)
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alexandrelinhares1 wrote:
Hi Kane, any changes to Connect software with release of the NDI 3?


No new Connect has been released yet, but I could expect when the next version is out you will have the NDI® 3 features like the ability to do multicast streams. However, to take advantage of multicast correctly you need a switch that supports IGMP snooping so that your entire network doesn't become flooded with traffic.
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#11 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 5:50:30 PM(UTC)
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New version of NDI Tools 3.0 has been posted the fixes the 'Access Manager' not opening bug.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:02:06 AM(UTC)
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I tried 1080p/25 transfer from vMix to Studio Monitor on laptop, by 1Gb switch and it is about 20Mb/s . It's 5 times less then before, but still twice more than announced 10. Picture is awesome, delay unseen, audio is perfect.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 7:00:46 AM(UTC)
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vMix is not sending NDI HX, nor using NDI 3.0, so i wonder how did you obtain 20 mbps... Was the video not complicated, static...?
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#14 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:27:41 AM(UTC)
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Now, with vMix 20 it's better - video is 5-12 Mbs. Great !
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