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dark_ata  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:21:32 PM(UTC)
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while to speak with guztavo i make some update

the firsts two digits are the seconds and the rest is count of update de xaml


whit the miliseconds not work very good need to spent some time



the next step merge the two code, my old think using the ffmpeg -vf 1 not work good
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#22 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:50:50 AM(UTC)
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I think that is near to be ready



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#23 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:26:49 PM(UTC)
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Dark, you are very close!
I think works perfect!

I suggest when OCR returns an empty value, the scoreboard shouldn't be upgraded (to avoid setting an inapropiate character). I.e at 19:33, the value shown for an instant is 19:3 .

Congrats!!
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#24 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 4:47:43 PM(UTC)
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I think it's wrong to say it but I think the program can work very well

keystone corrections



export import also work, the next and at the moment last step is scale and store the position to the resolution to the preview size, and merge the two versions

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2016 11:31:49 AM(UTC)
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Has all of your testing been done with a video clip of a scoreboard? I'm curious what kind of latency there is from the capture card of a live camera.

As someone who is a user of ScoreOCR, I can say that the capture hardware it uses has almost zero latency, and the I/O of the OCR application is, likewise, super fast, even down to the 10/th of a second. And for a TV market, it has to be. The vMix market probably doesn't need that level of refinement.

But that being said, can anyone speak to how much latency one might expect from a capture device? I suppose that if you're using, say, a few Magewell boxes, the latency will be identical on all the inputs, so it probably doesn't matter. Is there any difference in latency between Decklinks and Magewells? I honestly don't know.

How much more refinement does your program have? I'm seeing a few missed digits, and it seems that in general the scorebug clock in vMix lags the video clip clock by about 4/10th of a second. How big of a factor is this for potential users?
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:06:24 PM(UTC)
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Hi!
I think a possible solution to fix the delay between reading and decoding could be make a read of the values, and while reading a new value, keep calculating the time and send it to vMix. In the next read the value can be updated again and start calculating since this new value, so you will see clock moving continuosly. Anyway i think the read is very fast, works for me.
In Argentina, the biggest TV channels like TyC Sports and DXTV just put a camera over basketball clock and make a PIP, so using OCR its better (i think).
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:37:23 PM(UTC)
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yes in my test always uses a video(external of vmix) or a still, the last day i make a little change that change all the code, to set the on off.

i need make a real test usign a balckmagic quad 2 to check the latency from the source to the vmix, using the external as source the
latency is arround 0.5 seconds, for us is ok but i hope that the mayor of this delay is the vmix virtual dshow.

until two weeks I do not have time to "finish" the program. What if you sold it for $ 50 would seem to do well?
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:38:17 PM(UTC)
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dark_ata wrote:
yes in my test always uses a video(external of vmix) or a still, the last day i make a little change that change all the code, to set the on off.

i need make a real test usign a balckmagic quad 2 to check the latency from the source to the vmix, using the external as source the
latency is arround 0.5 seconds, for us is ok but i hope that the mayor of this delay is the vmix virtual dshow.

until two weeks I do not have time to "finish" the program. What if you sold it for $ 50 would seem to do well?



Can you do a special offer for Vmix forum for the early adopters of this post? Also a trail or demo version we can all test
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:10:00 PM(UTC)
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corporatejames wrote:
dark_ata wrote:
yes in my test always uses a video(external of vmix) or a still, the last day i make a little change that change all the code, to set the on off.

i need make a real test usign a balckmagic quad 2 to check the latency from the source to the vmix, using the external as source the
latency is arround 0.5 seconds, for us is ok but i hope that the mayor of this delay is the vmix virtual dshow.

until two weeks I do not have time to "finish" the program. What if you sold it for $ 50 would seem to do well?



Can you do a special offer for Vmix forum for the early adopters of this post? Also a trail or demo version we can all test


I think price it's fine. In my case, i will pay if it covers all my needs. I have two clocks to follow, the general clock, and a play clock (24 seconds), so if i can do it with your software, i'm in.
+1 to corporatejames.
Anyway as customer, i think you should keep updating your software when buy a license.
Regards!
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:05:19 PM(UTC)
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+1 for $50.
+1 for trial version. Its important to make sure it works fine on our PC.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, July 7, 2016 4:15:09 PM(UTC)
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+1 50$ with trial time or something
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#32 Posted : Thursday, July 7, 2016 4:56:22 PM(UTC)
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i hope have some time to "finish" this weekend. sorry for the delays
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#33 Posted : Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:53:24 PM(UTC)
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You should look to create a NDI version of this app. You could output NDI video+alpha as a graphic overlay to work in any NDI enabled system, maybe use NDI as a video input source.

Larger customers base = more opportunity

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#34 Posted : Saturday, July 9, 2016 6:19:12 PM(UTC)
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kane wrote:
You should look to create a NDI version of this app. You could output NDI video+alpha as a graphic overlay to work in any NDI enabled system, maybe use NDI as a video input source.

Larger customers base = more opportunity

Kane Peterson
NewTek


a few hours before I had requested the sdk, after have the first beta release i will try add the ndi as source, for output i think that is at the moment out of my possibility

today i spend all the day with two stupid problems, tomorrow finally we have work :-( and i think that can´t make the adjust of the preview size
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#35 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 12:57:11 PM(UTC)
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Hi Dark! Some news? I have games coming soon and i want to use your app.
Thanks in advance!
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#36 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:59:12 AM(UTC)
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guztavo wrote:
Hi Dark! Some news? I have games coming soon and i want to use your app.
Thanks in advance!


Same here, I am looking for a solution for upcoming weekend.
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#37 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:49:59 AM(UTC)
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i´m so sorry for the delays, we are having too many works this months

is very alpha version, when i tried with blackmagic i find that the api that i uses not list the options of framerates, at the moment only work in PAL SD, so sorry, the xmal is forced as input 2 and uses the names of ScoreBoardHD2.xaml values (HomeScore, AwayScore ....) and it is limited to 5000 update, please start with period i know that create a error window, i need debug to check what is the problem what work ok.

I download the ndi sdk but i can make any example work, really i dont know when i have time to check more.

http://radikals.net/OCR_SCOREBOARDS.rar

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#38 Posted : Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:40:12 PM(UTC)
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@dark_ata any further updates? Have you had time to work on it further?
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#39 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:14:30 PM(UTC)
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I was wondering the same thing. This has a lot of promise! keep up the good work.
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, November 8, 2016 6:59:00 AM(UTC)
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Are there any news about this project?
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