Originally Posted by: greggibson I one man band a lot myself and manually selecting participants has never been an issue.
I don't have access to the interface to do it, so, for me, it would be.
Originally Posted by: greggibson I can't see letting the inputs populate with random people as they log in being a solution.
Perhaps don't invite random people to your Zoom meeting. ;)
In all sincerity, this is why I suggested it being an option, not the default or only behavior.
So those who need it, like me, can do it, while those who don't won't have to worry about it.
Originally Posted by: greggibson Your inputs need order, otherwise how would you create any multilayer inputs and have the correct arrangement of people on it.
My inputs and my guests both have order. Coordinating who logs in when isn't difficult when you're in control of your program and programming Mix inputs to switch who's in what place is also doable on the rare occasion something needs to be changed.
Originally Posted by: greggibson Not to mention you would need to create way more inputs than needed. Most of us doing Zoom productions have non-participant staff logged into the sessions as well, so there are often a lot more people logged into a production meeting than just the actual speakers.
That's not "one man band". That's having a bunch of production staff behind the scenes.
No, I'd need just as many inputs as I have participants, because, as I already said before, I'm one man banding this. Everything production related is done by me, and me alone.
Audio? Me.
Video switching? Me.
Multiview alignment? Me.
Guest booking and onboarding? Me.
Hosting? Me.
I have to do it all and clicking around with the mouse is simply not an option. I don't even have the interface in front of me because I have a lot of things I need to monitor.
Frankly, I don't understand why you're arguing with me.
Me having the option I need to be able to use this feature in my production and drop screen capture with mixed audio wouldn't have any impact on your life or workflow.
You don't need this or think it would be detrimental to your production because you aren't jugging a million different things at once come showtime? Fine, don't enable it.
But on the Fun Time Live Show, they said they wanted feedback on how the features were implemented and how people are (or aren't) using them.
That's what I'm offering, just like how you're saying you need a summation of the meeting audio, not just ISOs. The difference is that you're mildly inconvenienced, while I flat out can't take advantage of the new feature, because anything that requires manual selection and clicking simply cannot be used with my workflow.
What Martin, et al do with those requests & that feedback is up to them, but you don't see me insisting you don't need the thing you requested, so I'd appreciate the same courtesy.