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Simon Byrne  
#21 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:34:15 AM(UTC)
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Can Beta 27 be installed whilst maintaining 26 on a production machine?

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#22 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:40:15 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Simon Byrne Go to Quoted Post
Can Beta 27 be installed whilst maintaining 26 on a production machine?

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27 will overwrite 26 if installed on the same machine. You can use 27 on a backup machine instead with either your current licence or a trial licence. Please note the licence conditions for this.

You can revert back to 26 at any time by re-installing over 27.

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#23 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 1:05:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gostlund Go to Quoted Post
I felt I needed to contribute and help shape this... I'll be watching closely for updates and hopefully I can contribute further.


Thanks for the response and feedback. Unfortunately it is difficult to tell what the specific issues are, best if you could stick to one issue and try to replicate it consistently
then send a support report and drop us an email.

Multiple Zoom Meetings

Note that multiple zoom meetings are not possible on a single computer and this is a Zoom imposed limitation.

Audio Features

Things like original sound for musicians are not available to us at this time. Note that even if this was it would be limited to the audio vMix sends anyway, so each separate participant should still have control over their audio in the app as per normal, and the quality of that audio will then feed back into vMix.

Gallery View etc

vMix only has access to raw feeds of participants in an isolated manner, it doesn't have access to UI displays of different participants etc.
Though you can bring in all the participants you need and put them in layers etc.
Dynamic switching of participants is also difficult as raw feeds do not switch quickly enough for this to be viable at this time.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 1:08:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Quinton Go to Quoted Post
I am getting the latest beta to crash and restart quite regularly, by trying out a MoveMultiviewOverlay and SetMultiViewOverlay shortcut.
Also it seems to be acting strangely if I press the shortcut key when the layers tab is open and I select the same shortcut, it will change the input starting at input 10 and go through the rest of the inputs one by one, always starting at input 10 again.
This is just simple inputs like numbers as inputs.


EDIT: Just noticed a support report you sent earlier.
Unfortunately your graphics driver is crashing, this is the error:
D3DERR_DEVICEHUNG: Hardware adapter reset by OS (-2005530508)

This is outside our control and an issue with the intel graphics or the driver.
If it only started happening recently, could be a recent driver update in Windows.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 5:51:46 PM(UTC)
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EDIT: Just noticed a support report you sent earlier.
Unfortunately your graphics driver is crashing, this is the error:
D3DERR_DEVICEHUNG: Hardware adapter reset by OS (-2005530508)

This is outside our control and an issue with the intel graphics or the driver.
If it only started happening recently, could be a recent driver update in Windows.


OK good to know, I do most of my testing on this little machine before moving it onto main machine.
I will install onto my main and test further.

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#26 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 6:56:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Quinton Go to Quoted Post

EDIT: Just noticed a support report you sent earlier.
Unfortunately your graphics driver is crashing, this is the error:
D3DERR_DEVICEHUNG: Hardware adapter reset by OS (-2005530508)

This is outside our control and an issue with the intel graphics or the driver.
If it only started happening recently, could be a recent driver update in Windows.


OK good to know, I do most of my testing on this little machine before moving it onto main machine.
I will install onto my main and test further.



Just installed on main machine now, can I ask why it does this "if" you have the layers window open.
It works perfect when the layers window is closed, but I would like to have it open to see whats happening on the layers.
Its just a simple shortcut for setmultiviewoverlay from 1,5 which should put input 5 which is the number 1 into input 1.
Like I said it works when layers window is closed, but does weird things when its open if I keep pressing the same shortcut key.




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#27 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:00:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Quinton Go to Quoted Post

Just installed on main machine now, can I ask why it does this "if" you have the layers window open.
It works perfect when the layers window is closed, but I would like to have it open to see whats happening on the layers.
Its just a simple shortcut for setmultiviewoverlay from 1,5 which should put input 5 which is the number 1 into input 1.
Like I said it works when layers window is closed, but does weird things when its open if I keep pressing the same shortcut key.



Could it have to do with the fact that in general shortcuts work on an active window (not the underlaying ones) ?
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Keyboard shortcuts have never worked in the Input Settings window or any other window in vMix besides the main window.
Use X-Keys etc if you require this, but even then the Input Settings window will not always update to reflect any changes.

So since the shortcuts you have assigned are number keys, this is just triggering the number shortcuts in Windows itself, which may activate or change dropdown boxes for example.
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#29 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:56:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: admin Go to Quoted Post
Keyboard shortcuts have never worked in the Input Settings window or any other window in vMix besides the main window.
Use X-Keys etc if you require this, but even then the Input Settings window will not always update to reflect any changes.

So since the shortcuts you have assigned are number keys, this is just triggering the number shortcuts in Windows itself, which may activate or change dropdown boxes for example.


Ah of course :)
That actually taught me a good lesson to be careful trying shortcuts on a keyboard, also if your on multiple monitors and the mouse is not focused on vmix the shortcut wouldn't work.
Gave me a good idea though, if I want to see whats happening with the 10 overlays it can be seen in Companion with the streamdeck.

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#30 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 10:45:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David_in_Philly Go to Quoted Post
Great update, thanks. Is there a comprehensive list of (just) the 150 shortcuts added in V27?


Code:
Undo                       SetLayer1CropX2        SetLayer5Rectangle 
SetVolumeChannelMixer1     SetLayer1CropY1        SetLayer5Width 
SetVolumeChannelMixer10    SetLayer1CropY2        SetLayer5X 
SetVolumeChannelMixer11    SetLayer1Height        SetLayer5Y 
SetVolumeChannelMixer12    SetLayer1PanX          SetLayer5Zoom 
SetVolumeChannelMixer13    SetLayer1PanY          SetLayer6Crop 
SetVolumeChannelMixer14    SetLayer1Rectangle     SetLayer6CropX1 
SetVolumeChannelMixer15    SetLayer1Width         SetLayer6CropX2 
SetVolumeChannelMixer16    SetLayer1X             SetLayer6CropY1 
SetVolumeChannelMixer2     SetLayer1Y             SetLayer6CropY2 
SetVolumeChannelMixer3     SetLayer1Zoom          SetLayer6Height 
SetVolumeChannelMixer4     SetLayer2Crop          SetLayer6PanX 
SetVolumeChannelMixer5     SetLayer2CropX1        SetLayer6PanY 
SetVolumeChannelMixer6     SetLayer2CropX2        SetLayer6Rectangle 
SetVolumeChannelMixer7     SetLayer2CropY1        SetLayer6Width 
SetVolumeChannelMixer8     SetLayer2CropY2        SetLayer6X 
SetVolumeChannelMixer9     SetLayer2Height        SetLayer6Y 
Effect1                    SetLayer2PanX          SetLayer6Zoom 
Effect1Off                 SetLayer2PanY          SetLayer7Crop 
Effect1On                  SetLayer2Rectangle     SetLayer7CropX1 
Effect2                    SetLayer2Width         SetLayer7CropX2 
Effect2Off                 SetLayer2X             SetLayer7CropY1 
Effect2On                  SetLayer2Y             SetLayer7CropY2 
Effect3                    SetLayer2Zoom          SetLayer7Height 
Effect3Off                 SetLayer3Crop          SetLayer7PanX 
Effect3On                  SetLayer3CropX1        SetLayer7PanY 
Effect4                    SetLayer3CropX2        SetLayer7Rectangle 
Effect4Off                 SetLayer3CropY1        SetLayer7Width 
Effect4On                  SetLayer3CropY2        SetLayer7X 
Loop                       SetLayer3Height        SetLayer7Y 
SetCCGainY                 SetLayer3PanX          SetLayer7Zoom 
SetCCGammaY                SetLayer3PanY          SetLayer8Crop 
SetCCLiftY                 SetLayer3Rectangle     SetLayer8CropX1 
SetCrop                    SetLayer3Width         SetLayer8CropX2 
SetCropX1                  SetLayer3X             SetLayer8CropY1 
SetCropX2                  SetLayer3Y             SetLayer8CropY2 
SetCropY1                  SetLayer3Zoom          SetLayer8Height 
SetCropY2                  SetLayer4Crop          SetLayer8PanX 
SetEffect1Strength         SetLayer4CropX1        SetLayer8PanY 
SetEffect2Strength         SetLayer4CropX2        SetLayer8Rectangle 
SetEffect3Strength         SetLayer4CropY1        SetLayer8Width 
SetEffect4Strength         SetLayer4CropY2        SetLayer8X 
SetFrameDelay              SetLayer4Height        SetLayer8Y 
SetLayer10Crop             SetLayer4PanX          SetLayer8Zoom 
SetLayer10CropX1           SetLayer4PanY          SetLayer9Crop 
SetLayer10CropX2           SetLayer4Rectangle     SetLayer9CropX1 
SetLayer10CropY1           SetLayer4Width         SetLayer9CropX2 
SetLayer10CropY2           SetLayer4X             SetLayer9CropY1 
SetLayer10Height           SetLayer4Y             SetLayer9CropY2 
SetLayer10PanX             SetLayer4Zoom          SetLayer9Height 
SetLayer10PanY             SetLayer5Crop          SetLayer9PanX 
SetLayer10Rectangle        SetLayer5CropX1        SetLayer9PanY 
SetLayer10Width            SetLayer5CropX2        SetLayer9Rectangle 
SetLayer10X                SetLayer5CropY1        SetLayer9Width 
SetLayer10Y                SetLayer5CropY2        SetLayer9X 
SetLayer10Zoom             SetLayer5Height        SetLayer9Y 
SetLayer1Crop              SetLayer5PanX          SetLayer9Zoom
SetLayer1CropX1            SetLayer5PanY
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#31 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 10:47:47 PM(UTC)
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I have to assume that vMix is going to charge a fee for ZoomISO integration? I pay $50ish a month for ZoomISO Pro, do we know if this is the case?
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#32 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2023 10:52:48 PM(UTC)
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The new control of layer in the layer page is amazing, i think I will only use this section and not position but that would be really cool some shorcut or something like this for control the pivot point. Thank you
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#33 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2023 12:04:47 AM(UTC)
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Congrats on the Zoom integration. I advocated for exactly this over a year ago and I am glad to see it come to fruition.

In some testing this morning a couple of observations:

1. Setting return audio to a bus other than MASTER doesn't seem to work. I tried to set the return audio to BUS A both in the input CONNECT dialog box as well as in the vMix SETTINGs under OUTPUT2.

2. Couldn't get vMix Social to connect. Threw up an error dialog. I don't have the contents but will try again later.

3. Regarding the vMix Social interface. For this to TRULY be useful, vMix Social needs THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO A WEBINAR OR MEETING OTHER THAN THE ONE THE SPEAKERS ARE IN. The point is the be able to stage speakers/presenters in a separate meeting from the audience, capture their AV, and send a nicely packaged, switched feed back into another meeting or webinar where the audience resides. If we push the same video back into a Meeting or Webinar, there will be audio sync issues...so we need the ability to log vMix Social into another webinar or meeting that includes the audience, capture the chat and QA from that meeting and provide it via the Social app the a moderator or speakers in a different meeting. Pulling the chat/QA from the same meeting the speakers are in - with no audience - is of limited or no value.

Thanks again for implementing this. Great first effort and I am excited about all the potential here.

Greg Gibson
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Zoom pricing and vMix

Zoom have said there will be no additional fees to use this functionality in vMix for the foreseeable future, though you will still
need an appropriate paid plan on Zoom's side to support things like HD resolutions etc.

vMix Social and Zoom

For privacy and security reasons you can only access the chat of meetings that vMix is a participant of. (This is a requirement of Zoom)
You can connect to any meeting from vMix and don't need to bring in any of the feeds into vMix if you choose not to, but in some way
vMix needs to be a participant to see the chat.
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Originally Posted by: admin Go to Quoted Post

vMix Social and Zoom

For privacy and security reasons you can only access the chat of meetings that vMix is a participant of. (This is a requirement of Zoom)
You can connect to any meeting from vMix and don't need to bring in any of the feeds into vMix if you choose not to, but in some way
vMix needs to be a participant to see the chat.


Are you saying a workaround is to run a second vMix instance logged into the Zoom session where the audience is?

Social integration is really key. The number one pushback on a vMix produced Zoom
Webinar is that the speakers/moderator have no direct access to the audience chat/QA and clunky work arounds have to be utilized.

Greg
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Zoom allows only one meeting per computer. We have no control over this unfortunately.
You would need to use a second computer to login to the webinar in vMix and use vMix Social from there, perhaps sending the graphics over NDI to
the main vMix machine.

I know that is not ideal, but there isn't much we can do about it.
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I am trying out the SetCrop function for a layer and no matter what values I enter for the crop in X1,Y1,X2,Y2 it seems to ignore the values and moves them to an extreme of 1920 1080 or 0 each time?
Im getting the same result with a vmix shortcut and API command.
SetZoom etc works perfectly fine.
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Note: We are aware of a an error when using vMix Social with Zoom in the current beta, this will be fixed in the next update.
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Originally Posted by: Quinton Go to Quoted Post
I am trying out the SetCrop function for a layer and no matter what values I enter for the crop in X1,Y1,X2,Y2 it seems to ignore the values and moves them to an extreme of 1920 1080 or 0 each time?
Im getting the same result with a vmix shortcut and API command.
SetZoom etc works perfectly fine.


Crop values are between 0 and 1.
This is so they can be used with things like dials on MIDI and Stream Deck controllers to make small adjustments.
To set fixed crops, you are better off making the layers ahead of time and merging between them then adjusting through shortcuts.
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Originally Posted by: Quinton Go to Quoted Post
I am trying out the SetCrop function for a layer and no matter what values I enter for the crop in X1,Y1,X2,Y2 it seems to ignore the values and moves them to an extreme of 1920 1080 or 0 each time?
Im getting the same result with a vmix shortcut and API command.
SetZoom etc works perfectly fine.


Crop values are between 0 and 1.
This is so they can be used with things like dials on MIDI and Stream Deck controllers to make small adjustments.
To set fixed crops, you are better off making the layers ahead of time and merging between them then adjusting through shortcuts.


OK Got you, is working fine now. So 0.01 is approx 19 on the X and 11 on the Y
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