don't know if it the right way to do it, but should be possible by creating a virtual input of both inputs. In that virtual input you can PIP the other input via the multi view option.

I have attached an screenshot. On the screen you can see 2 inputs and 2 virtual inputs, in both virtual inputs I have put the other input as PIP via the multi view option.

Without creating virtual-inputs I was not able to "create" PIP in both inputs... I was able to PIP input 2 into input 1, but was not able to PIP input 1 into input 2... and you use no overlays ;-)

I'll look into virtual inputs and multiview.. I have Basic HD License, looks like I would need 2 virtual Inputs, do they count towards my Total Input limit?

For this setup, I have 2 Cams (2 Inputs) and an image for the logo/watermark. That's 3 Inputs. If the 2 virtual Inputs count, that would require 5 Inputs and over my 4 Input Limit. I'll check this out, hoping Virtual Inputs don't count.

Actually, it looks like I can't create a Virtual Input off a Input that has a NDI source... can anyone else (using NDI) see if they can create a Virtual Input from a Input with a NDI Source and have it so it's not offline?

On that 5th Input (Virtual Input off Input 3 (Cam via NDI source), I can configure Multiview / PIP for Cam1 (Input 1) so apparently Virtual Inputs do not count towards the Max Input Limit.

"PS, not possible to create virtual of ndi source "

I got it to work probably doing some crazy stuff but it's doing what I want with one button press, MERGE button via the Web Interface. I do wish I cold turn off/disable Preview from showing, really not needed for me.

What I did:

Selected Cam2's (on Input 3) config, created Virtual Input (Input 5).
Went to the new Virtual Input which is now Input 5 (which did show offline and was blank), selected Config.
For Multiview 1, selected NDI Cam2 (on Input3) and kept full screen / default settings.
For Multiview 2, selected Cam1 (on Input1) and configured Position for PIP

Put Input 5 in Preview, Input 4 (which is the other Virtual Input and setup with Multiview PIP) is on Output.

Merge does the transition properly each time and I can use our logo still via overlay1 to keep our logo up all the time.

If the new Virtual Input (Input 5) didn't show offline, I would only have to add the Multiview for PIP.


I will also study your last example doggy to see how that works.

Just love how powerful and configurable vMix is.

Thank you, I'll also dive into that trigger/advanced shortcut method using this example... will be a good learning experience for me and be useful for future things we want to do.

We actually have 3 vMix Licenses, 1 is used for recording via NDI... I may upgrade one of them to vMix HD.

@ doggy

Well, yes and no...
It's always good to "push the envelope" and try new ways of doing things and not be limited to one particular way of doing something, especially if it improves or streamlines a process of some sort, but there are other things that have already gone through the "trial and error" stage and have pretty much established and proven themselves as the "Standard", most efficient or "best" way of doing or presenting something, in those cases, there is no need to re-invent the wheel. How you get there may vary, but the final outcome should conform to tried tested and true practices (e.g. Things like the "Axis of Action" or the fact that Lower thirds should conform to generally accepted lower third practices).
Perhaps a little beyond the scope of your comment, but I think it's important to note that a new way of doing something may not be the "best" way. which kind of reminds me of my original explorations of the "Wirecast" software, not sure where it's at now, but the early versions had such a "Layered" user interface that I found to be very impractical to use in a fast paced 'Live' broadcast environment.
Never-the-less, it is amazing and I'm always impressed with vMix's capabilities and versatilities.


Ice